Speakers for my new dedicated room have arrived lads!

signs said:
That's a good size room , have you not built it yet ?
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No the room is still how it looks in the picture here:-

https://goo.gl/photos/2xrnMcfUBaP4TsBd9

Still in the middle of building the house, should be in early next year.

Going to raise the speakers on a platform and then 3M wide AT screen. 16:9 or 2.35:1 still can't make my mind up.

Will be a full 7.1.4 Atmos setup. The room will also need some treatment to get the best out of the JBL speakers.
 
Richeh said:
Look lovely mate did you happen to get them from epic home cinema by any chance?

Go 16:9 I had the same choice but there are more 16:9 movies than you think plus if you want to watch any show like GoT, Westworld etc they will be 16:9.
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Thanks, no unfortunately his price had gone up and he couldn't price match.

There are so many different arguments over screen ratios. My viewing distance will be around 3m and can't squeeze either 130" 16:9 (which is probably too large) or 125" scope screen, but then 16:9 within that is 98" which I think will be too small.

I've even thinking about a 2.00:1 in between custom screen. Seymour Import from US.
 
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Mr_Sukebe said:
That could be seriously good. I've really enjoyed all the bigger JBLs I've heard over the years. The visuals are a bit marmite, but there's nothing wrong with how they sound. Can't say that the amp appears to be in same league, but that's another matter.
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That's signs setup. The JBL will be driven by a Cinepro 3k6 and Arcam 390 processor.
 
james.miller said:
sorry got side tracked after seeing the ad for the pb16 ultra . what a subwoofer :eek:


What was that you were saying about avoiding reference level? the JBLs seem an odd choice if you are not interested in RL - dynamics is one of their strengths, no?
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Probably listen -10 below reference, have to see how it goes after treating my room. Depends how fatiguing I find it. Yes I bought them for their dynamics, huge sound stage and mid bass attack. I'm sure they will be lots of fun just below reference level.

House is detached btw.
 
sastusbulbas said:
To be honest I can see koolpc's point though he was abrasive with it.

You later mention 5m by 3m odd in size? But do not mention the research you did that concluded three 15" drivers can sit in a 3m or 5m width and provide optimal channel seperation over a smaller model.

Personally I also see three JBL 3677 as a little on the large side for that size of listening environment, my last large cinema set up was in a room about 20m+ square with 7 identical speakers, similar in size to what you have chosen, all identical units from CV with 15" main drivers, and we found the surrounds just too large and intrusive, we changed to JBL dropping down to smaller models with 12" drivers for surround duties with 2x15 for the front stereo pair with two 15" models in parallel for the center and dual 15" subs. (the subs never really did it for me and I had planned on two 36" Tuba HT's)

Our amps were the Denon DN-500AV driving Yamaha P series PA power amps, 3500/5000/7000 and a couple of P3200's later changed to another 3500/5000 if I remember correctly.
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Have a read of this thread.


https://www.avforums.com/threads/j-b-l-pro-cinema-3677-at-home.1938126/

There are a few jbl owners In similar sized rooms.
 
3.3m width is ample space for seperation imo, they're not that much wider than large floor standing speakers. Don't plan on lots of room treatment, just first reflection points to begin with and maybe some at the rear.

I bought these speakers because they are only 11" deep and perfect for use behind an AT Screen. Can you name me 3 LCR speakers that will perform better at the price? They are obviously only suitable for dedicated rooms where you can hide them properly.

Will they perform better than my previous KK Sound Q125 Quattro Speakers with 5" drivers? I should hope so and if they don't, it has only cost me £600 to find out.

Ive spoken with someone who has compared them in his home to MK300 speakers that cost over 2k each and he prefered the JBLs.

I'm using KK TriFX surrounds and XTZ S2 heights. I may get the in ceiling version of the S2's. I've had 12" subwoofers for years and fancied a change with the larger PSA sub. Eventually I plan on a 7.1.4 setup, but for now it will be 5.1.4.
 
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Richeh said:
Just be wary of adding too many speakers, more is not better in a properley setup environment. You say you plan to do 7.1.4 in the end so adding two rear speakers, but rear speakers only work well if you have a few feet at least between them and your listening position. If you don't have enough space don't add more, a properley setup 5.1 system will sound better than a poorly setup 7.1 one.

Otherwise sounds glorious ;)

I still say 16:9 - all IMAX content is 16:9 and you appreciate the size much more then. You have a decent projector so black levels won't be a problem for the borders. Yes 2.35:1 is very cinematic but you will be annoyed at the 16:9 scenes or any shows you watch due to the smaller screen size :p
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Hi Rich,

Yes I'm aware of that and that bass response isn't good with seating right at rear of room. Back speakers will be around 1. 5m from MLP.

I don't think I mentioned my PJ, but yes, it's decent one. I have a JVC x700. So what size 16:9? I could go 130" but I'm worried that might be too big?

Regarding the black borders, I can notice them in my non dedicated white walled temporary room at moment but black walls and planned devore around Screen area should help. I'm seriously considering an in between 2.00:1 screen at moment. Just had some AT material samples from Seymour before I make a decision on what screen to buy. :)
 
I think 130" 16:9 will be a little too big from around 3m. I think it's between the following :-

ECA115 Precision Frame - 2.0
Frame Dimensions: 120.4" x 62.9"
Image Dimensions: 115" x 57.5"
Frame: $1,059
Shipping: $150
Total: $1209



EF115XS - Precision Frame - 2.35:1 Ratio - 115'' wide image - XD screen material
Image Size: 115'' x 48.9''
Outer Frame Dimensions: 120.4'' x 54.3''
Screen Price: $1021
Shipping $150 (Shipping with FedEx Express Economy.)
Total $1171 (Excluding import taxes or other import fees.)

:)

I probably won't watch that much tv in there tbh, only stuff missus won't watch with me in lounge.
 
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Richeh said:
If you are a bit DIY you could get the material for much cheaper if you fancied DIY'ing a frame yourself. Plenty of info over at https://www.avforums.com/forums/projectors-screens-video-processors.43/ if you wanted to dive deeper, and also probably enough info to help you decide on which AR.

What AV receiver btw? Think I missed it.

Aaand do you have a set position for the sub or are you going to do the 'crawl test'? :D
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Arcam 390 and cinepro 3k6. Gonna try sub in rear corner first.
 
Room is almost ready, needs another lick of paint, carpet and some room treatment. Here's a few pics:-

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Can't wait to finally get the room finished! :)
 
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