Spec flight sim pc.

John_V85 said:
Ok, thinking of the following:

YOUR BASKET
1 x Asus GeForce GTX 670 DirectCU II 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £359.99
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £184.99
1 x Samsung 128GB SSD 830 Desktop Series SATA 6Gb/s KIT with Norton Ghost - (MZ-7PC128D/EU) £89.99
1 x Antec Kúhler H2O 920 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (LGA775/LGA1155/LGA1156/LGA1366/AM2/AM2+/AM2+/AM3+) £84.98
1 x Patriot Intel Extreme Masters 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (PVI316G160C9K) £71.99
1 x Toshiba (7K1000.D) 1TB SATA 6GB/s 32MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA100) £59.99
1 x PC Power & Cooling Silencer Mk III Series 600W '80 Plus Bronze' Modular Power Supply - White £53.99
1 x Samsung SH-224BB/BEBE 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £14.99
Total : £932.90 (includes shipping : £10.00).



Then combined that in Mini-ITX or Micro-ATX format with:

1 x BitFenix Prodigy Mini-ITX Cube Case - Midnight Black £64.99
1 x ASRock Z77E-ITX Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Mini ITX Motherboard £123.98

or

1 x Lian Li PC-V355B Aluminium Micro ATX Cube Case - Black £94.99
1 x Gigabyte Z77M-D3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Micro ATX Motherboard £86.99

I intend the end product to run 3x Dell 2412M monitors.

Questions
Does this all work together?
Any better combinations for the same sort of money? Particularly have little idea with regard to motherboards and what features I need. I'm not going to be tinkering with every little thing, but if I can get a slight overclock out of the cpu it seems a waste not too.
Any obvious bottlenecks, or where by spending a little more I'd get something much better?
Is the cooler really acquired? £85 seems a lot for a cooler.
Anything i've missed (Window's aside) to get the thing put together?

Many thanks
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lol yeh 85 is a lot for a cooler
and its noisy so ditch it^^

it wont fit in the lianli anyway without heavy mod
 
Just to throw a different case in the mix

this case can do water cooling if needed, although at first appearence there isnt anywhere to put the watercooling fan/grill it can be attached onto the side of the case next to where the window is (theres small hole cutouts on side of case, it can be atatched to these)

i had a google and theres a few people who have done it with abit of extra work.

Also will allow a micro atx mboard

YOUR BASKET
1 x Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 Windforce 3X 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £349.99
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £184.99
1 x Gigabyte Z77M-D3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Micro ATX Motherboard £86.99
1 x Intel 330 Series 120GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive - Retail £83.99
1 x Thermaltake Armor A30 LAN Gaming Case - Black £79.99
1 x PC Power & Cooling Silencer Mk III Series 600W '80 Plus Bronze' Modular Power Supply - White £69.98
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 32MB Cache - OEM (ST31000524AS) £59.99
1 x GeIL Black Dragon 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C11 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (GD316GB1600C11DC) **OcUK Exclusive** £53.99
1 x Zalman CNPS8900 Extreme Heatsink & Fan (Socket 1155/1156/1366/775/FM1/AM3+/AM3/AM2+/AM2) £29.99
1 x Samsung SH-224BB/BEBE 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £14.99
Total : £1,029.89 (includes shipping : £12.50).






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picture of water cooling on this case, you can see grill has been attached to side.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3266/5698165360_bf3142625a.jpg

descitpion of how he mounted wc

"I bought a 120mm Rad mounting bracket from *removed* and then i mounted it to where the little cutout on the back of the case was at. From there i ran the lines into the case."
 
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John_V85 said:
Not dead set at all. The cooler was suggested on an earlier spec. I was just wondering if it was really necessary.
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Well my spec with that case, i can't find anywhere a definitve size of cooling fan heatsink tht it will support, however going off the size of the intel stock cooler and height of the graphics card that zalaman cooler should fit and should allow a modest overclock of 4.3-4.5 ghz

the case itself comes with all fans fitted for extra cooling around the case.

ill do some mor elooking and see if i can find a definitive size that will fit. that cooling fan above is 120 x 120 x 60

intel stock cooler i think is 90 x 90 x 50

could be worth giving OC ring and see if they can advise on what cooling fan size will fit.

or just go for lian li case :D
 
lianli - msi

YOUR BASKET
1 x MSI HD 7970 Lightning 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card **OcUK Exclusive** with FREE Sleeping Dogs PC Game £379.99
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £184.99
1 x OCZ Vertex 4 256GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive (VTX4-25SAT3-256G) £179.99
1 x MSI Z77 MPower Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £139.99
1 x Seasonic X-Series 760w '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £124.99
1 x Lian Li PC-A55B Aluminium Midi Tower Case - Black £79.99
1 x GeIL Black Dragon 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C11 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (GD38GB1600C11DC) £23.99
Total : £1,126.54 (includes shipping : £10.50).





YOUR BASKET
1 x MSI HD 7970 Lightning 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card **OcUK Exclusive** with FREE Sleeping Dogs PC Game £379.99
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £184.99
1 x Lian Li PC-V650B V-series Aluminium Case - Black £163.99
1 x MSI Z77 MPower Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £139.99
1 x Seasonic X-Series 760w '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £124.99
1 x Samsung 128GB SSD 830 Desktop Series SATA 6Gb/s KIT with Norton Ghost - (MZ-7PC128D/EU) £89.99
1 x GeIL Black Dragon 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C11 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (GD38GB1600C11DC) £23.99
Total : £1,120.54 (includes shipping : £10.50).



gigabyte - silverstone

YOUR BASKET
1 x Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 Windforce 3X 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £349.99
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £184.99
1 x Gigabyte Z77-G1-Sniper M3 Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Micro ATX Motherboard £139.99
1 x Seasonic G series 650w '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £94.99
1 x Samsung 128GB SSD 830 Desktop Series SATA 6Gb/s KIT with Norton Ghost - (MZ-7PC128D/EU) £89.99
1 x Silverstone Precision PS07 Midi-Tower Case - White (SST-PS07W) £69.98
1 x GeIL Black Dragon 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C11 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (GD38GB1600C11DC) £23.99
Total : £968.03 (includes shipping : £11.75).



i like both :o
 
Mei said:
lianli - msi

YOUR BASKET
1 x MSI HD 7970 Lightning 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card **OcUK Exclusive** with FREE Sleeping Dogs PC Game £379.99
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £184.99
1 x OCZ Vertex 4 256GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive (VTX4-25SAT3-256G) £179.99
1 x MSI Z77 MPower Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £139.99
1 x Seasonic X-Series 760w '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £124.99
1 x Lian Li PC-A55B Aluminium Midi Tower Case - Black £79.99
1 x GeIL Black Dragon 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C11 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (GD38GB1600C11DC) £23.99
Total : £1,126.54 (includes shipping : £10.50).





YOUR BASKET
1 x MSI HD 7970 Lightning 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card **OcUK Exclusive** with FREE Sleeping Dogs PC Game £379.99
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £184.99
1 x Lian Li PC-V650B V-series Aluminium Case - Black £163.99
1 x MSI Z77 MPower Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £139.99
1 x Seasonic X-Series 760w '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £124.99
1 x Samsung 128GB SSD 830 Desktop Series SATA 6Gb/s KIT with Norton Ghost - (MZ-7PC128D/EU) £89.99
1 x GeIL Black Dragon 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C11 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (GD38GB1600C11DC) £23.99
Total : £1,120.54 (includes shipping : £10.50).



gigabyte - silverstone

YOUR BASKET
1 x Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 Windforce 3X 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £349.99
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £184.99
1 x Gigabyte Z77-G1-Sniper M3 Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Micro ATX Motherboard £139.99
1 x Seasonic G series 650w '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £94.99
1 x Samsung 128GB SSD 830 Desktop Series SATA 6Gb/s KIT with Norton Ghost - (MZ-7PC128D/EU) £89.99
1 x Silverstone Precision PS07 Midi-Tower Case - White (SST-PS07W) £69.98
1 x GeIL Black Dragon 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C11 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (GD38GB1600C11DC) £23.99
Total : £968.03 (includes shipping : £11.75).



i like both :o
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No Internal 3.5" HDD or CPU cooling heatsink on any of the builds
 
 
Mei said:
bcos its down to personal pref ><
theres no dvd too

you got admit they look nice :)
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I missed dvd drive off my build also ooops

just depends what OP wants i suppose. however im sure he would like some sort of extra and better cooling on his cpu. i know i would if i was spending over 1k on a comp.

and internal hdd, if 128 gb is all he needs fair enough. but would be better to have a dump 500gb drive atleast for any crap that he dosent want on his ssd

edited my spec in above post to have dvd drive
 
one of those builds has a 256 :)
havent used a dvd in over 5years, wont have one them noisy things in my pc

tho i was just playing with the msi board on offer and the new lianli cases
looks nice to me

personal pref again but i wont have a mechanical hdd in my gaming pc either, why build something super quiet, light, then stuff something heavy and noisy in it if you dont have to, put it ext or something

anyway this was way more than i wanted to type^^
 
John_V85 said:
Any reason not to go for the Asus 4gb vs. the Gigabyte 2gb card given its only £10 more?
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Sorry i can't remember but are you going to use a 3 monitor setup or multiple monitor setup?

if so get the 4gb version as you will benefit from the extra vram. just a single display the benefit will be marginal.
 
John_V85 said:
Ok, thinking of the following:

YOUR BASKET
1 x Asus GeForce GTX 670 DirectCU II 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £359.99
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £184.99
1 x Samsung 128GB SSD 830 Desktop Series SATA 6Gb/s KIT with Norton Ghost - (MZ-7PC128D/EU) £89.99
1 x Antec Kúhler H2O 920 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (LGA775/LGA1155/LGA1156/LGA1366/AM2/AM2+/AM2+/AM3+) £84.98
1 x Patriot Intel Extreme Masters 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (PVI316G160C9K) £71.99
1 x Toshiba (7K1000.D) 1TB SATA 6GB/s 32MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA100) £59.99
1 x PC Power & Cooling Silencer Mk III Series 600W '80 Plus Bronze' Modular Power Supply - White £53.99
1 x Samsung SH-224BB/BEBE 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £14.99
Total : £932.90 (includes shipping : £10.00).



Then combined that in Mini-ITX or Micro-ATX format with:

1 x BitFenix Prodigy Mini-ITX Cube Case - Midnight Black £64.99
1 x ASRock Z77E-ITX Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Mini ITX Motherboard £123.98

or

1 x Lian Li PC-V355B Aluminium Micro ATX Cube Case - Black £94.99
1 x Gigabyte Z77M-D3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Micro ATX Motherboard £86.99

I intend the end product to run 3x Dell 2412M monitors.

Questions
Does this all work together?
Any better combinations for the same sort of money? Particularly have little idea with regard to motherboards and what features I need. I'm not going to be tinkering with every little thing, but if I can get a slight overclock out of the cpu it seems a waste not too.
Any obvious bottlenecks, or where by spending a little more I'd get something much better?
Is the cooler really acquired? £85 seems a lot for a cooler.
Anything i've missed (Window's aside) to get the thing put together?

Many thanks
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I used the antec closed loop cooler because the prodigy only allows mini-itx mobos. The GFX slot is very close to the CPU socket so some aftermarket tower heatsinks could overhang the PCI-E lane which is obviously bad as you want the GPU in there. The closed loop coolers solve the issue and you can also use high profile RAM as well if it was cheaper than low profile. SO you see the tower coolers are a bit of an issue with your choice of mobo and RAM ;)

Don't use the GB Z77m-D3H use the Z77 MX-D3H which has better voltage control for overclocking. It's a little more cash but also supports SLI/Xfire too.

YOUR BASKET
1 x Asus GeForce GTX 670 DirectCU II 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £359.99
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £184.99
1 x ASRock Z77 Extreme4 M Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £101.99
1 x XFX 850W XXX Edition Modular '80 Plus Silver' Power Supply £94.99
1 x Samsung 128GB SSD 830 Desktop Series SATA 6Gb/s KIT with Norton Ghost - (MZ-7PC128D/EU) £89.99
1 x Fractal Design Define Mini Computer Case - Black £74.99
1 x Toshiba (7K1000.D) 1TB SATA 6GB/s 32MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA100) £59.99
1 x Cooler Master Hyper 612S CPU Cooler (Socket LGA1366/1156/1155/775/AM3/AM2+/AM2) £32.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9D3X2K2/8GX) £23.99
1 x Samsung SH-224BB/BEBE 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £14.99
Total : £1,038.89 (includes shipping : FREE).



Case is mATX so thats the next smallest after mini-itx as space seems to be a concern. I've used a fractal case but im sure there are alternatives for you to chose from.

I've used the Asrock mobo as it's in stock, I also prefer the styling although the GB mobos arguably are better and have a better warranty. SLI support is a possibility if you want to add another GPU. The PSU can handle another GPU and is silver rated. PSU is modular which I think is mandatory when using small cases....please note the 850W is cheaper than the 750W :/

4GB of VRAM will be handy if you do intend to use multiple screens. The 500 series GPUs needed SLI to run more than 2 monitors. The 600 series can do three displays from the single card, so a 4GB 670 is certainly no slouch.

8GB of RAM is ample really, there are now spare RAM slots to fill if you felt you needed any extra RAM for video editing or whatever your other PC uses are. Remember 16GB is the RAM limit for Windows Home premium licences.

The 612S cooler is designed to be quiet and doesnt break the bank. The fans fit on easily and a tube is supplied rather than a sachet so you can reuse the thermal paste.

Hope this helps clear up some of your questions. I'm sure you could trim a few quid off. If you won't ever SLI the PSU spec could certainly be reduced.

P.S Don't get an AMD GPU, FSX loves nvidia. You also get cuda support which other software can use which makes it a more well rounded upgrade.
 
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dunn2010 said:
nice build by hono, think you accidnetally hit buy on the oem i5 rather than retail though mate
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Yes £5 for another 2 years warranty does make sense. The i5K retail was £180 yesterday so yes I did accidently pick the OEM version.

The OEM has 1 year warranty (CPU failure is very rare mind) and no heatsink......not that it matters as I used the 612S in the spec. Had the OEM been a lot cheaper it could have helped pay for the heatsink.
 
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