Spec me a case! Sub £60, no window/lights.
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The last 20 that were ordered in the past month were 120/120.
The last 12 months I know of 1 80mm one, out of a few 100 shipped.
Its a no brainer really, get the PC7+ as it is miles better than any Antec case, ANY Antec case.
The Zen is good, but not in the same league as the PC7+.
There is a reason why this forum is filled up with people who have 120/120 PC7s, its because they are the best for the money, and the first 'high end' case, but not with the price tag.
Most certainly does not look like a high street box, wish people would search as you would find this written 900 times, a thread almost.
They look naff in pictures, EVERYONE I have spoken to gets blown away by them in person, especially when you consider the pictures look like boxes.
http://www.yewen.co.uk/overclockers/pc7/
The last 12 months I know of 1 80mm one, out of a few 100 shipped.
Its a no brainer really, get the PC7+ as it is miles better than any Antec case, ANY Antec case.
The Zen is good, but not in the same league as the PC7+.
There is a reason why this forum is filled up with people who have 120/120 PC7s, its because they are the best for the money, and the first 'high end' case, but not with the price tag.
Most certainly does not look like a high street box, wish people would search as you would find this written 900 times, a thread almost.
They look naff in pictures, EVERYONE I have spoken to gets blown away by them in person, especially when you consider the pictures look like boxes.
http://www.yewen.co.uk/overclockers/pc7/
*Buys one*
Cheers Yewen.
As I said, I did search, but found little of use on the Antec Solo, particually.
One more thing, can I check it'll be OK with 3 hard drives (may even add a fourth) and 4 5.25 drives? No floppys.
And is it quiet?
EDIT: Also, I presume the window on the particular case you just linked me pictures of does not come as standard?
Cheers Yewen.
As I said, I did search, but found little of use on the Antec Solo, particually.
One more thing, can I check it'll be OK with 3 hard drives (may even add a fourth) and 4 5.25 drives? No floppys.
And is it quiet?
EDIT: Also, I presume the window on the particular case you just linked me pictures of does not come as standard?
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What colour have you gone for?
No it doesnt, but if you ever wanted one one, they can be found here.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/LianLi_Accessories.html
- Drive bays 4x5.25", 2x3.5", 3x3.5" internal
Cobra said:
No it doesnt, but if you ever wanted one one, they can be found here.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/LianLi_Accessories.html
- Drive bays 4x5.25", 2x3.5", 3x3.5" internal
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Yewen said:
Why's that then?
Weren't you berating someone for making a similar statement about your beloved PC7+ without justifying it.
Personal preference aside, i don't see what the big deal is with the PC7+. It looks ok but nothing special really. I like understated, it's just the PC7+ is a very plain box. The build quality is good, sure, except it's made from aluminium which in my opinion is rattly, flimsy and feels cheap. Sure, cooling's great but that's not everything.
Seriously, you should be getting commission from Lian Li but don't criticise all others purely because of your preference.
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Why does an Antec case need to have better cooling to compete with a Lian Li?
There are Antec cases that have good cooling that are in the same price range. Further to that, there isn't the need for sticking bits of blu tack in order to stop resonance.
For example..
SLK3800BUK
SuperLanBoy
Solo
There are Antec cases that have good cooling that are in the same price range. Further to that, there isn't the need for sticking bits of blu tack in order to stop resonance.
For example..
SLK3800BUK
SuperLanBoy
Solo
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You don't care about cooling? You should.
The reason there's so few solo reviews is because it's exactly the same as the p150, minus the power supply and colour.
The reason there's so few solo reviews is because it's exactly the same as the p150, minus the power supply and colour.
All of Antecs new P range has build quality issues that Antec are aware of, yet they make no effort to fix them, poor design.
WJA96 made me think about it, never get anyone on the forums saying my Lian Li side panel just broke (unless they sat on it) but you get people saying there P180 side panel has broken on a monthly basis.
Yes there is need for sticking bits of blue tac.
ANY case can resonate, what separates a good case from a bad one in that respect is how easy it is to fix it. PC7+ just a bit of blue tac and its done. Perfect.
Lian Li S80, 9 hours of playing around with components, and a peice of rubber between the graphics card and case to stop it. Bad case for stopping resonation.
There is the need for solving resonation, having one fix that works in 99/100 cases where people experience resonation is fantastic for everyone.
The PC7+ build quality wise is better than any of Antec's range. You see PC7 and PC60 cases that are about four years old now, and they look like new.
P180 after six months had a warped door and the side panel had cracked. Only one I have ever seen or had the nerve to use after what other people have experienced. Bar SPCR, which designed the thing nobody really rates them head and shoulders above everything else.
WJA96 made me think about it, never get anyone on the forums saying my Lian Li side panel just broke (unless they sat on it) but you get people saying there P180 side panel has broken on a monthly basis.
Yes there is need for sticking bits of blue tac.
ANY case can resonate, what separates a good case from a bad one in that respect is how easy it is to fix it. PC7+ just a bit of blue tac and its done. Perfect.
Lian Li S80, 9 hours of playing around with components, and a peice of rubber between the graphics card and case to stop it. Bad case for stopping resonation.
There is the need for solving resonation, having one fix that works in 99/100 cases where people experience resonation is fantastic for everyone.
The PC7+ build quality wise is better than any of Antec's range. You see PC7 and PC60 cases that are about four years old now, and they look like new.
P180 after six months had a warped door and the side panel had cracked. Only one I have ever seen or had the nerve to use after what other people have experienced. Bar SPCR, which designed the thing nobody really rates them head and shoulders above everything else.
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As far as i know the problem with warped doors has been fixed with the later revision of the p180 and customer support was pretty reasonable in replacing affected doors.
Haven't heard any problems with the other cases.
From what i've seen, the p180 received good reviews pretty much across the board. I'm not saying it's head and shoulders above other cases, but it's no slouch either.
Don't think i'm knocking the PC7+. I have one here. It's just i think you should allow people to make choices based upon better information than purely stating personal preference with sweeping statements.
Haven't heard any problems with the other cases.
From what i've seen, the p180 received good reviews pretty much across the board. I'm not saying it's head and shoulders above other cases, but it's no slouch either.
Don't think i'm knocking the PC7+. I have one here. It's just i think you should allow people to make choices based upon better information than purely stating personal preference with sweeping statements.
likwid said:
I have a lanboy and the cooling is not quite as good and it has lower build quality, although not by that much. I never said it has to be better to compete, I just wanted examples of antec cases that are better. Because if there arent any then your post was unjustified...
Yup, but I backed my statement up fully. And I make the same statement every 8 threads or so and am happy to explain any of it.
The door is no longer an issue on the very latest revision, but they are not dominating the retail channels yet so it is still an issue. The same was the case of the PC7+ and its rear 80mm fan until about Feb.
P150 has an issue with the drive stealth bay covers breaking, and warping side panels.
P160 had a bad batch where the front could discolour. Probably more but its not a common case anymore and I have had limited exposure to them.
Most of Antec's range has build quality issues, albeit the customer support is literally the best about and fixes the trouble in a few days.
Coolermaster are the same, with poor quality control. Lian Li have the trouble along with Coolermaster and Thermaltake of painfully slow support.
Very few manufacturers ever get it totally right, ATCs brand of CM is the only one I can think of.
The door is no longer an issue on the very latest revision, but they are not dominating the retail channels yet so it is still an issue. The same was the case of the PC7+ and its rear 80mm fan until about Feb.
P150 has an issue with the drive stealth bay covers breaking, and warping side panels.
P160 had a bad batch where the front could discolour. Probably more but its not a common case anymore and I have had limited exposure to them.
Most of Antec's range has build quality issues, albeit the customer support is literally the best about and fixes the trouble in a few days.
Coolermaster are the same, with poor quality control. Lian Li have the trouble along with Coolermaster and Thermaltake of painfully slow support.
Very few manufacturers ever get it totally right, ATCs brand of CM is the only one I can think of.
likwid said:
Ah... cheers!
No, I have overkill on cooling - an XP120 and a VF7000Cu, cooling only a 3700 and a 9800pro. My PC can practically passively cool itself, so overheating shouldn't be a problem.
Yewen - you got any pics of the Solo or P150 please?
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I think that now you're backing up your statement fully, where before you didn't. I do understand that this is a frequent discussion and repetition can be boring, however new visitors to the board wont know about this.
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Cobra said:
It doesn't matter if you have great internal cooling if the ambient temperature of a case is high. Pretty obvious that blowing hot air onto hot components isn't going to be as effective.