Spec me a shortlist... £12k

[TW]Fox;29349972 said:
Google the dealer with the 5 Series...
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Wow, fair point! Thanks.

[TW]Fox;29349977 said:
7k drop over 4 years doesn't exactly seem outrageous.

Your focus on residuals seems a bit pointless given your budget. All strong residuals are going to do for you really is get you an older car for your money.

If you spend 10k on a car for 5 years and then push it off a cliff your maximum depreciation is £2k a year, hardly massive.
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Not horrendous agreed I'm just trying to get a feel for comparative options. Actually I was hasty with the £7k figure because the car posted above was overpriced I think. I've since found this which seems decent?
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201510268171574
 
To be fair, I did narrow my search down to titanium X sport petrol estates, as thats, what I was suggesting, and there were not many options other than what I linked. Obviously if you look at non-sports, diesels and saloons too then you are opening up the market.

If you're happy to loon at non-sports, then this would be cheaper : http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...del=mondeo&price-to=13000&make=ford&logcode=p
 
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When I was looking at mondeos the market seems to dictate that (on petrols at least) once the car approaches 100k its impending doom approaches and as such it's value should drop massively. Much more so than anything else I looked at .

Couple of ways to look at that, buy one with nearly 100k on the cheap, or make sure when you're done with the car it will have under say 90k

I would definitely be tempted by titanium x as you don't lose all that much spec wise over the sport with the right car
 
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If you're concerned with losing money on a car then don't spend 12k on one. If you are doing 5k a year you could buy anything from a new car to a £1k 100,000 mile Astra.

At 5k a year I would either go for something new with as close to a six year warranty as possible, or go bangernomics and find something cheap thats been well looked after.

Hyundai do a 5 year warranty. You could probably drive out of a dealership with a brand new i30 for 12k. If the car is just a tool to take you on holiday and do a couple jobs than I would probably buy an i30 and keep it for 10 years plus.
 
Dis86 said:
I bet you now that your 5 series is in better condition than some of the same model that are 6 months old.
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I'll bet that if you did find an example, or examples, that they would very much be the exception rather than the rule.

Also, picking up on someone like Fox, who keeps/kept an early 2000's car immaculate through many thousands of miles and many years isn't particularly fair to the counter argument, he very much isn't your usual run of the mill consumer. If he was, I'd be very much less worried regarding running older cars. Even then, there's things that just go to crap as they age, as we all do :D

Age is very important, I appreciate it's not everything like you've rightly pointed out, but it would be a top consideration of mine making a purchase (and no, it wouldn't stop me buying an older car, but I'd appreciate the increased risks taken when doing so).

Whether or not you agree with this number is neither here nor there, but most people will make a cut off at some point.
 
jigger said:
If you're concerned with losing money on a car then don't spend 12k on one. If you are doing 5k a year you could buy anything from a new car to a £1k 100,000 mile Astra.

At 5k a year I would either go for something new with as close to a six year warranty as possible, or go bangernomics and find something cheap thats been well looked after.

Hyundai do a 5 year warranty. You could probably drive out of a dealership with a brand new i30 for 12k. If the car is just a tool to take you on holiday and do a couple jobs than I would probably buy an i30 and keep it for 10 years plus.
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I think that's an over simplification really. I know there are cheaper ways to get about but thats not the only thing that defines value for money which is what I'm after whe considering whether to keep the X5 and pay its bills or swap for a newer but still nice car with similar overall costs of ownership.
 
I think we're getting close to having a shortlist that we can go and see/drive and then narrow down further:

Ford Kuga Titanium 2.0 163 Powershift
Audi A5 (prefereably facelift but unlikely in budget)
Audi A6 (very slightly longer than the X5 which isn't ideal but not neccesarily a problem)

Don't know whether to add a BMW 520d to the list or if the reliability is a concern for these? Is the informed view still that you don't run one without the BMW warranty? Example of one - http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201603162041897
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201603162041897
 
Buy a good 5 Series or don't bother. Buying one with a manual gearbox and a postage sized screen is like buying, I dunno, a really good thing and then ruining it? :p
 
[TW]Fox;29349890 said:
How is a 4 year old 60k mile Mondeo £11k :eek:
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It's what they cost from a dealer.

I gave £10.5k for a three and a half year old Titanium X sport with FSH(163 diesel with powershift gear box, and some extras) in January last year for the missus.

Problem is with Mondeos, and all the other common brands to be fair, is that they don't hold their value, not because of inherent defects or unreliability, just because there are loads of them.

Decent diesel Mondeos get snapped up by taxi drivers, petrols and lower powered/spec rep mobiles fall into the £39pw over 120 month car supermarkets and get bought by people who can't afford to fill them up let alone service them.
 
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[TW]Fox;29352242 said:
Buy a good 5 Series or don't bother. Buying one with a manual gearbox and a postage sized screen is like buying, I dunno, a really good thing and then ruining it? :p
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Agree with this. A premium car needs an auto box to feel special and all the tech.

I am getting rid of my A6 C7 as it was pretty bog standard and did not feel special. And in all honestly the lesser spec versions depreciate just as much. I purchased my 2011 A6 2 years ago from main dealer at £16000, and its on sale at another garage now for £13000.

Replaced with a Skoda Superb Elegance with a dsg and it feels so much nicer. (And it was free, so that helps).

I also thought there were more 3 series on the road than Mondeos?

Also premium cars like an A6 are saloon and quite annoying as a family. ('my opinion anyway). And the middle back seat is terrible.
 
Its a fair point about gearboxes. My preference would be an auto anyway really, so perhaps I should narrow searches down to that. I'm not convinced about sat nav though - Unless I can get google maps and spotify or something equally as good, the infotainment bit doesn't bother me.
 
monkey_boy said:
Its a fair point about gearboxes. My preference would be an auto anyway really, so perhaps I should narrow searches down to that. I'm not convinced about sat nav though - Unless I can get google maps and spotify or something equally as good, the infotainment bit doesn't bother me.
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It's part of that sort of car though. If you don't have it in a 5 Series you get a tiny little screen and enormous black plastic blanking panels. The interior was designed around the wonderful 10.2" widescreen display for every aspect of the cars controls - its part of what makes the car so good.

If that sort of stuff doesn't bother you then why pay the premium for such a car in the first place? You'll get far more for your money and probably better reliability and lower costs by picking something other than a 5 Series with all the good bits stripped out.
 
Again fair points. Ford's are still on the cards. I want to drive a Kuga and see what that's like. The main things I would expect from and enjoy about the premium models are the soundproofing and a better fit and finish inside. What I probably need to be careful of is neglecting an important options because they don't bother me and ending in a similar position to my current X5, which may well be the only SE, Manual X5 with no Nav in the entire world.
 
I've just put a deposit down on a 2011 A4 2.0 TDI Multitronic with HDD nav, cruise, sensors and sunroof. 26k miles, 12 month warranty and 24 month MOT cover. Going to see/fetch it on Saturday.
 
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