Spec me an audio set up

[hornetstinger]

You don't seem to get that for the vast majority of people a high end soundbar system is vastly preferred, they are mostly plug and play without tons of settings to mess with, you usually get rears without having to trail cables around the room, they give massively better sound than the built in TV and with the likes of eARC don't need upgrading that often.

With his budget and the fact he seems quite new to audio I'd be looking at a high end soundbar and I'm sure he'd be happy. An AVR is going to eat most of his current budget leaving him with low end speakers.

Just looking at Very he could get a Sonos Beam, Sonos Sub Mini and 2 Sonos One SL for £889 assuming he's not used the new customer 20% off code before.

Which would get him a very good set up, with no trialing wires as long as he's got power sockets close to the speakers and is extremely easy to set up and gets monthly software updates and is less intrusive than a separates system and he won't have to find room for a huge AVR.

I'm sure if you have the room and the budget then a separates system makes more sense, but for the vast majority a high end soundbar is more than enough.

Just admit your wife wears the trousers and you're not allowed to buy JBL Everest DD67000 and you're trying to make excuses.

I'm sorry you are not allowed to enjoy a home cinema speaker system.

Sonos are overpriced, cheap rubbish, locked in eco system, that subwoofer is barely a subwoofer with dual 6" woofers. It's also all plastic crap. It's also a rubbish home audio streaming system as they are too stingey to increase the RAM in the units to support more than 65,000 tracks in your home library. Also have you forgotten what they tried to do with their system a while ago?

Since this is a PC forum it would be like you saying gaming on a single core PC with 2GB of RAM and integrated graphics is an acceptable gaming machine, nearly as good as a £2000 gaming PC.

You're also forgetting E-ARC can cause issues you need a TV that passes all formats. Some TV's don't pass DTS. E-ARC is ok as an additional output/input, but forcing yourself to use it because a crappy soundbar only has one input and no outputs is stupid.

I've spent less on my speakers than that Sonos soundbar, and they will offer far higher build and sound quality. Hell they're real wood, veneer, and high end drivers, not in a crap plastic encosure with 2" drivers. That BK subwoofer 10" is something else than than Sonos "sub"

Oh it doesn't need speaker cable trailed around the room, but it needs a power cable trailed across the room, and power sockets near also hahaha .


Can you re-use those Sonos speakers later on with non Sonos gear?


OP just buy a AVR and 5.1 speaker system, they don't know what they're talking about. You can get pretty good bargains, if you're willing to buy second hand, and if you don't like one part- say you bought Klipsch speakers and you hate them - just replace those Klipsch speakers keeping the AVR, subwoofer, rears.

Once HDMI 2.2 comes out, just replace the AVR. Those with TV's that drop DTS support on E-ARC means they'll just get stereo PCM from their 4K movies haha, and you'll have full DTS-MA, DTS;X, etc or if DTS X 2 comes out change the AVR, they'll have to junk their whole soundbar. And if they buy another brand of soundbar, their Sonos sub and rears won't work hahahahaha

 

[Broken Hope]

Considering you just post rubbish all day long and still haven't actually proven you own any home cinema gear at all and the only photos you have posted have shown to be stolen from elsewhere on the internet I don't know why anyone would listen to a thing you say.

If we're using the PC forum analogy, it would be like speccing a Geforce 4090 to someone who wants to play Minecraft.

As for the library support the vast majority of people, especially the type of person that purchases Sonos gear is going to be using a streaming service like Apple Music or Spotify so who cares if their local library exceeds 65, 000 tracks.

My barely a subwoofer rattles a door over a meter away from it, I'm honestly convinced you've never actually heard Sonos gear to be posting all the rubbish you do about it.

In fact I'm certain you haven't actually heard any home cinema gear to be posting the rubbish you do.

Where's I've used the Wharfdale 9.0, 9.1 and used BX6 floor standers and centre and guess what, my Sonos gear sounds better, is easier to set up, I don't have to worry about or think about crossover frequencies or anything like that, I just plug it in, set it up in the app and listen to my music and films, which guess what? Is what the vast majority of people want to do.

I love the locked in eco system crap, it's the same argument people give for Apple, guess what? If the ecosystem is good, people don't mind being locked in! It's like when people say oh if you change from an iPhone then your Apple Watch won't work anymore and yet I've barely met a single person that uses an iPhone decide to switch to Android, people like knowing their stuff all works together.

 

[hornetstinger]

Considering you just post rubbish all day long and still haven't actually proven you own any home cinema gear at all and the only photos you have posted have shown to be stolen from elsewhere on the internet I don't know why anyone would listen to a thing you say.

If we're using the PC forum analogy, it would be like speccing a Geforce 4090 to someone who wants to play Minecraft.

As for the library support the vast majority of people, especially the type of person that purchases Sonos gear is going to be using a streaming service like Apple Music or Spotify so who cares if their local library exceeds 65, 000 tracks.

My barely a subwoofer rattles a door over a meter away from it, I'm honestly convinced you've never actually heard Sonos gear to be posting all the rubbish you do about it.

In fact I'm certain you haven't actually heard any home cinema gear to be posting the rubbish you do.

Where's I've used the Wharfdale 9.0, 9.1 and used BX6 floor standers and centre and guess what, my Sonos gear sounds better, is easier to set up, I don't have to worry about or think about crossover frequencies or anything like that, I just plug it in, set it up in the app and listen to my music and films, which guess what? Is what the vast majority of people want to do.

I love the locked in eco system crap, it's the same argument people give for Apple, guess what? If the ecosystem is good, people don't mind being locked in! It's like when people say oh if you change from an iPhone then your Apple Watch won't work anymore and yet I've barely met a single person that uses an iPhone decide to switch to Android, people like knowing their stuff all works together.

Not my problem you can't afford a 9.2.4 AV pre (and not a avr either) and power amplifier system, with two 15" THX ultra subwoofers that weigh about 80kg each, total power I think 6000w .

So you've used budget speakers. Great. I own the top of the range speakers in two speaker brands ranges.

Wow door shakes from one metre away? Amazing. My shed door shakes from 15 m away that is outside the house, and the windows and floorboards flex.

I don't have to worry about my speakers not working when I change my AV pre. Will your work if you change Sonos soundbar to Denon?

My own purchased library is bigger than 65,000, Sonos are crap their new products are still limited to generation one Sonos streamer. Rather have wiim pro plus than crappy Sonos port or whatever that junk is called.

Also since you haven't posted a picture of you wearing clothes have car and a house you must be homeless and naked. Right? Haha

 

[stuman]

Not my problem you can't afford *snip*

I think you might need to empathise with the person asking the question.


They are not you. You and your needs are in a tiny minority. Tiny.

We can do car analogy, somebody asks for a car which is used to commute but can go for a fun weekend drive occasionally.

Then the recommendation comes in that nothing else will do apart from a custom built race car, as unless it weighs 500kg and does 0-60 in 2 seconds you might as well walk.

Your fascination with upgrading and swapping is also not great here. People don’t want to faff and swap bits here and there and all the inherent fuss and required knowledge.

We really need to hear back from OP with some more details.

 

[hornetstinger]

I think you might need to empathise with the person asking the question.


They are not you. You and your needs are in a tiny minority. Tiny.

We can do car analogy, somebody asks for a car which is used to commute but can go for a fun weekend drive occasionally.

Then the recommendation comes in that nothing else will do apart from a custom built race car, as unless it weighs 500kg and does 0-60 in 2 seconds you might as well walk.

Your fascination with upgrading and swapping is also not great here. People don’t want to faff and swap bits here and there and all the inherent fuss and required knowledge.

We really need to hear back from OP with some more details.

Why is a PC better than a console? Same thing. If a part fails in a PC you can just replace that one part. You don't junk the whole lot.

 

[stuman]

Why is a PC better than a console? Same thing. If a part fails in a PC you can just replace that one part. You don't junk the whole lot.

And yet consoles outsell gaming pc’s 10-1 because most people don’t know how to, or care. If somebody asked me for a gaming pc for £450 guess what I would be suggesting…

 

[jaybee]

I have to say, I'd be wary of buying into Sonos as well, based on the history with them. They upset thousands of customers in the past by abandoning some feature and putting a load of products into legacy status from what I recall. Not sure on the details but my mate suffered as had invested loads into Sonos stuff. It left him bitter and he got rid of it all. I've heard one of their soundbars in a living room setup and it was surprisingly good, but you could tell it was not real surround.

I have a soundbar myself for my kitchen TV. It's a Yamaha YAS-209. It's decent enough and has a wireless sub with it, which does drop quite well. For kitchen duties to add some depth for sport we tend to have on in there, it's good. For music it's good enough. Does a good all round job. Movies though...yeah not so good. It has it's limitations.

For a 77 inch OLED in the lounge, you really want to be pairing it with something decent to get the most out of it! Have a think about what you can get away with in your lounge in terms of number and size of speakers, and then go from there. I've only got 5.1 but I love it. To me it sounds ace. It is an actual lounge and not a dedicated cinema room, so we had fairly strict requirements to have stealthy speakers so it is a compromise. Works for us well.

 

[hornetstinger]

Op go to avforums this place just has people who thinks Logitech is high end sound haha

 

[Broken Hope]

I have to say, I'd be wary of buying into Sonos as well, based on the history with them. They upset thousands of customers in the past by abandoning some feature and putting a load of products into legacy status from what I recall.

Eh they stopped updating older speakers which isn't particularly odd, some of the speakers in question were almost 10 years old from what I remember, which when it comes to smart tech is ancient. The main issue was that customers who used the upgrade programme to get 30% off their new speakers would have their old speakers bricked and disabled, they reverted this decision and people can now get 30% off and still keep their old speakers, give them away or whatever.

I have no reservations from buying into the eco system, they are almost Apple like in terms of set up, ease of use and support. I don't know any other soundbar or other home cinema manufacturer that releases monthly updates and bug fixes, yes they did put out a faulty update that affected some set ups, but they fixed that and all software has bugs.

 

[jaybee]

Eh they stopped updating older speakers which isn't particularly odd, some of the speakers in question were almost 10 years old from what I remember, which when it comes to smart tech is ancient. The main issue was that customers who used the upgrade programme to get 30% off their new speakers would have their old speakers bricked and disabled, they reverted this decision and people can now get 30% off and still keep their old speakers, give them away or whatever.

I have no reservations from buying into the eco system, they are almost Apple like in terms of set up, ease of use and support. I don't know any other soundbar or other home cinema manufacturer that releases monthly updates and bug fixes, yes they did put out a faulty update that affected some set ups, but they fixed that and all software has bugs.

I agree they are the Apple of soundbars. That's both a good and bad thing.

 

[aoaaron]

I've just purchased a LG OLED G3 77 inch TV and looking to get a decent sound set up. I'm pretty much a newbie on audio, so not entirely sure what the best setup would be.

The room my TV will be in is L shaped, but for the purposes of the positioning of the TV, the main part is 410cm depth and 340cm wide.

I'm looking for some help as to what audio equipment I should look to buy, which will complement my new TV.

My budget is around £750

Any recommendations would be appreciated

IF you can raise your buddget a bit, I can hook you up with a great 2 channel setup!
IU

 

[Gray2233]

IF you can raise your buddget a bit, I can hook you up with a great 2 channel setup!
IU

Buddy.

For a grand I can hook him up for a great two channel set up and I'm a headphone guy.

 

[Lethagized]

A few years back I managed to get a fullly boxed new old stock wharfedale diamond 9.5 floor standing speaker set (2 floorstanders, centre and dipole surrounds and the 12"sub and an old onkyo amp ~2006 still in the box too for £350 Its the best and most satisfying bargain ive ever had.

The speakers were silver ~2005 but I've had them carbon wrapped so they look nice. The amp could do with upgrading (mainly for 4k gaming)

To see wharfedale still selling these same speakers for the past 20something years is testament to how good value they are. Your TV deserves a nice pair of floorstanders and I'd recommend wharfedale 9.5 and the 9.5cm centre speaker. I have the 9.5cs centre and its the only thing I'd like to upgrade from the Cs to cm. If you do go for these, go for the 3way floorstanders instead of the 2way floorstanders. The extra drivers in the cabinet along with the sub give just the right amount of bass.

 

[aoaaron]

Buddy.

For a grand I can hook him up for a great two channel set up and I'm a headphone guy.

What would you suggest?

I have arendal 1723 monitors worth 2k or sealed surrounds worth 1500 I’d be willing to or heights I’d be willing to do a deal on within a decent budget which would likely help get on the higher end level of audio