Spec My girlfriend - £400-£500

the 6300 isn't much faster than an i3 3220 and when both chips are overclocked id assume the i3 would edge it. not to mention the possible upgrade path to an i5 at a later date.
 
I was glancing around the forum and read this as:



:p :p :p

Read that too.


ITT: OP Realises his PC he bought a few months back is sucky and wants to buy a new one for his "girlfriend".



Reality is that he is probably asking you to spec one for himself so he doesn't mess up this time and then donate his 'unique' build to this girlfriend.
 
Read that too.


ITT: OP Realises his PC he bought a few months back is sucky and wants to buy a new one for his "girlfriend".



Reality is that he is probably asking you to spec one for himself so he doesn't mess up this time and then donate his 'unique' build to this girlfriend.

Well no, She just got a new Job/Apprenticeship so it is my treat for her.

If it ends up more powerful then mine, then I might as well have it as I do 3D modelling, Video Editing, Photoshopping, College Work, Actual Work and play a handful of games.

She would need it for Music, Games, college work.

Just If im getting her a PC, im not buying a crappy prebuilt that can only handle BF3 at medium 1280x720. She will be getting a decent PC, then we will both be adding to it over the months like mine.

I started off with just the PC and a cap K/B + Mouse using a TV. Now have 2 22" Monitors, a G500 Mouse, G110 Keyboard, G35 Headset, Z323 Speakers (All Logitech, I know..) a Razer Desk Mat, More HDD Space, a PhysX Card (albeit crappy) and a new Desk Chair.

Im looking forward to it, as since most coop games are xbox based for splitscreen, and nothing for PC we have not played as much. When we both have decent PCs we will be able to have more fun as a couple again. So im really looking forward to it
 
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Well no, She just got a new Job/Apprenticeship so it is my treat for her.

If it ends up more powerful then mine, then I might as well have it as I do 3D modelling, Video Editing, Photoshopping, College Work, Actual Work and play a handful of games.


So you are still speccing it for yourself... no?

Of course it will be more powerful than your monstrosity, you know that, right?


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ITT: OP Requests a new PC for himself for £400-£500 after speccing a waste of £900 6 months ago. :(
 
So you are still speccing it for yourself... no?

Of course it will be more powerful than your monstrosity, you know that, right?


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ITT: OP Requests a new PC for himself for £400-£500 after speccing a waste of £900 6 months ago. :(

Lets say it ends up as £500 Then after adding monitors, GPU, Peripherals, speakers and the such, its likely to be +£1000 anyway.

If it does its job and looks great then I'm happy to pay that kinda money.

I also doubt you guys would be too happy if you found out my total build bill so far anyway, but i'm happy with it, any money I would have saved I would have only spent making it look nicer.
 
You may as well just give up and do it on your own, you are asking for help from the same people who you ignored and in some regards completely disrespected in your first thread. Now they will just use you as a whipping boy, frankly i dont blame them it is your own doing.
 
I don't get it?

I asked for opinions for my AMD Build I built for my self 6 Months ago, I got specced for loads of featureless ugly i5 builds though I had bought already and had no intention of returning. I was the one who got disrespected.

I'm now asking for an Intel Build and i'm getting nothing? Just people trying to make me explain my old build.

The attitude of some of the "respected" members on this Forum is terrible.

If I made a new account and asked for a £400-500 Intel build without a GPU, I would have had 10-15 specs. So whats different now? I am asking for specs for a new PC to reward my girlfriend. It is honestly upsetting how ignorant people can be. Constant back stabbing, singling out and just general bullying.

Makes me regret asking for help on this build. I was told in my last thread to ask before buying, so I do exactly that and get this.
 
when you have a low end budget you dont spend 25% of your budget on a case. get that later. cheaper intel build than honos

tbh to save money i would look elsewhere for ram sorry ocuk but if you shop about you can get good 8gb set of ram 1600mhz with good timing for 30-35 quid

you cud upgrade mboard to gigabyte d3h if you liked but would cost more

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £167.99
1 x Asus P8Z77-V LX2 Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £69.98
1 x Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache WD10EZEX - OEM ** Single Platter ** HDD £59.99
1 x TeamGroup Elite 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C11 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (TED38GM1600HC11DC01) £43.99
1 x XFX Pro 450W Core Edition '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £39.95
1 x Xigmatek Asgard Pro Gaming Case - Black £32.99
1 x OcUK 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £16.99
1 x TP-Link 300Mbps Wireless-N USB Adapter (TL-WN821N) £12.98
1 x OcUK Black Gaming Keyboard (5105GU) £10.99
1 x Gigabyte M6800 1600DPI Gaming Mouse £8.99
Total : £478.94 (includes shipping : £11.75).



if your going to put a gfx card in soon, dont get trinity, thats more for when you dont intend on using a dedicated gpu.

if you feel this costs too much you can drop to a lower I5 for 23 quid less, or drop to an I3. the I3 will not bottleneck the 670 or 660ti and still run any game nicely. infact i used to run an i3 with 660ti and it ran battllefield ultra all settings on full no problems.

i spec'd you an intel build with descriptions on how to alter it if prices was too heavy.

tell em whats wrong with the above or what you do and dont like and ill see if i can change
 
500 is a limited budget for a full Intel system.

Personally I'd give her your FX4170/560Ti/Asrock.

Buy an i5, board of your preference, 7850 2GB.

Then get the rest to your preference for your girlfriend as you're obviously opinionated in what features etc you wanted, which is why you made the AMD build you did in the first place.

Or, budget constricted keep the 560Ti and get your GF a 7770 or something, latest drivers with the GCN isn't meant to be that bad tbh.
 
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i spec'd you an intel build with descriptions on how to alter it if prices was too heavy.

tell em whats wrong with the above or what you do and dont like and ill see if i can change

I do like it, I would just like other builds to compare against to know whats out there and what people think of certain parts.

Would it be worth getting faster RAM? and will that PSU be enough for serveral HDDs (Out of my PC for her Media) an OC'd 660ti, possible SLI in the future.

Also I do not think that motherboard supports SLI, Crossfire Only, unless it is not actually MoBo specific, as long as you have 2 lanes quick enough. I'm un-educated in SLI.
 
the 6300 isn't much faster than an i3 3220 and when both chips are overclocked id assume the i3 would edge it. not to mention the possible upgrade path to an i5 at a later date.

The Core i3 3220 cannot be overclocked,moreover in BF3 MP alone the FX6300 is like 15% faster. That is Frostibite 2. Add id Tech 5,Cry ENGINE 3 and Unreal Engine 4 into the mix,and the FX6300 will be better in those too. Even for Unreal Engine 3,which is reasonably multi-threaded(not heavily) the CPUs are very similar.

So,no unless you play SC2 and Skyrim,with anything relatively modern the FX6300 tends to be as good or better.

People seem to put the SB and IB Core i3 CPUs on some massively pedestal of brilliance and I had one of them myself. If I had no more than £100 to spend on a new CPU to last me a few years,I would get a FX6300 and if I had more money,then a Core i5 for £35 to £40 more.
 
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SLI, like everything Nvidia needs to be certified.
Unlike AMD, which as far as I'm aware you can pretty much force with any multi PCI-E configuration.
 
The Core i3 3220 cannot be overclocked,moreover in BF3 MP alone the FX6300 is like 15% faster. So,no unless you play SC2 and Skyrim,with anything relatively modern the FX6300 tends to be as good or better.
People seem to put the SB and IB Core i3 CPUs on some massively pedestal of brilliance and I had one of them myself.

I'd always likely pick the 3220 myself, as I'd put them onto a Xeon later on.
But it's not exactly a great situation to be in, we have the FX6300, which while not bad isn't my first choice of a gaming CPU, and an i3 3220, which again, isn't my first choice of a gaming CPU, it's an interim.

I'd want at least consistent i5 750 performance in that ~100 pound price region, but we don't.
 
500 is a limited budget for a full Intel system.

Personally I'd give her your FX4170/560Ti/Asrock.

Buy an i5, board of your preference, 7850 2GB.

Then get the rest to your preference for your girlfriend as you're obviously opinionated in what features etc you wanted, which is why you made the AMD build you did in the first place.

Or, budget constricted keep the 560Ti and get your GF a 7770 or something, latest drivers with the GCN isn't meant to be that bad tbh.

Well If i were to give her my board I would not need all the features as we would use her PC for Device Charging, iPod Dock with On/Off Play for Speakers.

So i5 3570K, Z77 Motherboard with SLI support (Need help here), which GPU for quieter cooling/performance, PSU and maybe a few other bits.

Also, what is GCN?

Thanks for the help Martini
 
GNC is basically an acronym for AMD's 7XXX GPU architecture.

Wouldn't personally bother with a multi GPU configuration, especially not something which is now getting a bit long in the tooth and EOL, the money would be better off put into a better single GPU (As in a few months we'll be 2 generations up from the 5XX, you could use your 560Ti for now, sell it and move on up to an 8XXX.) and frankly your 560Ti wasn't a good buy in the first place (When you bought it we were talking 7870 pricing)
 
GNC is basically an acronym for AMD's 7XXX GPU architecture.

Wouldn't personally bother with a multi GPU configuration, especially not something which is now getting a bit long in the tooth and EOL, the money would be better off put into a better single GPU (As in a few months we'll be 2 generations up from the 5XX, you could use your 560Ti for now, sell it and move on up to an 8XXX.) and frankly your 560Ti wasn't a good buy in the first place (When you bought it we were talking 7870 pricing)

I was lucky in the fact it overclocks well. I have reapplied TIM as well. I can get it to just over 1Ghz stable, but the performance increase is not worth the temps. Max Load: 81'c @975Mhz, 86'c around 1025Mhz.

Being 2Gb I have not run out of VRam yet. I have been looking at getting a 670 for my self over the past 2 week and looking to sell my 560ti. just no members market access..

Thanks
 
I'd always likely pick the 3220 myself, as I'd put them onto a Xeon later on.
But it's not exactly a great situation to be in, we have the FX6300, which while not bad isn't my first choice of a gaming CPU, and an i3 3220, which again, isn't my first choice of a gaming CPU, it's an interim.

I'd want at least consistent i5 750 performance in that ~100 pound price region, but we don't.

I wouldn't,if BF3 MP is any indication of how the Core i3 does,no way I would pick it now,especially as Unreal Engine 4 is out soon. The new consoles are on the horizon,and the new engines will be utilised by all of them due to the added grunt they have.

Most people are probably going to keep their CPU for a few years and not change them every few months,so the FX6300 is better in this regard.

That is reality of dozens of people I have helped,only very few will end up changing their CPU in under 2 to 3 years,and I can't recommend a Core i3 in good conscience now after actually using one for a while. Perhaps for certain older games,but even then a Celeron/Pentium would probably do the same job. My mate has an FX6300 and it does a better job of a number of newer releases than my Core i3 2100 did and we have the same graphics card too,which is not even the latest and greatest too!

I would tell someone to get a Core i5 for around £135 to £140,and failing that a FX6300 for around £100,if they have a limited budget.
 
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