Split Air con

ci_newman · 19 Apr 2023 at 21:34

mkv said:
Has anyone bothered with getting a planning permission before going ahead with their install?

You dont need planning permission if you only have a single outdoor unit.

Subcool were around earlier to do a quote for me, let's see what their pricing looks like

qbhatti · 20 Apr 2023 at 17:52

reef said:
We had a 8kW Mitsubishi split unit installed at the beginning of June last year and it was the best thing we've ever done. We have indoor units in three rooms (kitchen, main bedroom and Living room), but if you have the doors open it'll cool the whole house nicely when all three are running. Performance-wise they blow the mobile units away. We used to run two upstairs and there is no comparison. During that spell last summer it was 37C outside and inside was at a steady 21C in pretty much every room. I cant imagine what it would have been like without them as this house is a new build and holds heat in very effectively. Power usage is not too bad either, around 600-700w when running. Fortunately that is not an issue now we have solar, but at around 65p/hour at current prices, its worth it for the comfort.

I've yet to try it in heating mode, however now we've got the solar panels I might give it a try and save on some gas costs too.

Oh wow.

We are thinking of this but our main lounge is open plan so need something with a lot of grunt.

CapitalOne · 20 Apr 2023 at 18:21

Ours is already in use again for a couple of hours to “take the edge off” in the bedroom before bedtime

Doobedoo · 20 Apr 2023 at 18:51

Jesus Christ your houses must be very poorly built to need the aircon on so much and so soon. We have barely used ours in the 4/5 years we’ve had it.

throwaway4372 · 20 Apr 2023 at 18:56

new builds are insulated af.
heat water tank = house too hot
use oven = house too hot
gaming = house too hot

Doobedoo · 20 Apr 2023 at 19:01

That’s nuts. Front room reached 18.3c today and it’s been sunny all day.

Bedroom is currently 16.6c with the sun currently shining though the bedroom window.

CapitalOne · 20 Apr 2023 at 19:07

Doobedoo said:
Jesus Christ your houses must be very poorly built to need the aircon on so much and so soon. We have barely used ours in the 4/5 years we’ve had it.

Not need. Want

squerble · 20 Apr 2023 at 19:12

throwaway4372 said:
new builds are insulated af.
heat water tank = house too hot
use oven = house too hot
gaming = house too hot

On the flip side, insulation also keeps all the heat out, so they should be better in summer. But people don't understand things like keeping all windows and blinds closed, having external shutters/blinds etc.

Doobedoo · 20 Apr 2023 at 19:21

CapitalOne said:
Not need. Want

My aircon only goes down to 16c it wouldn’t actually be doing anything for us. Still seems mad in April lol.

andy_mk3 · 20 Apr 2023 at 19:30

CapitalOne said:
Ours is already in use again for a couple of hours to “take the edge off” in the bedroom before bedtime

Likewise. Had it on a couple of nights in the bedroom. New build house and it’s impossible to cool the bedroom down sometimes.

And for anyone on the fence about AC, I present you this

CapitalOne · 20 Apr 2023 at 19:30

Doobedoo said:
My aircon only goes down to 16c it wouldn’t actually be doing anything for us. Still seems mad in April lol.

I love a cold bedroom and the humidity and temperature difference with the ensuite with the door closed reminds me of being on holiday.

Our place sits at about 19 - 21c even without the heating on and we don’t open windows because of our cats.

CapitalOne · 20 Apr 2023 at 19:31

andy_mk3 said:
Likewise. Had it on a couple of nights in the bedroom. New build house and it’s impossible to cool the bedroom down sometimes.

And for anyone on the fence about AC, I present you this

This was us too last year, life saving if you are working from home a lot.

andy_mk3 · 20 Apr 2023 at 19:34

CapitalOne said:
This was us too last year, life saving if you are working from home a lot.

I was at work typically. But I did start early and finish even earlier that day to avoid the heat, not fun working on cars in that.

It was complete and utter bliss. Left both units on and kept the whole house very comfortable. I don’t think it will be the last we see of temperatures like that either.

CapitalOne · 20 Apr 2023 at 19:35

andy_mk3 said:
I was at work typically. But I did start early and finish even earlier that day to avoid the heat, not fun working on cars in that.

It was complete and utter bliss. Left both units on and kept the whole house very comfortable. I don’t think it will be the last we see of temperatures like that either.

Absolutely, I suspect we’ve beaten the rush a bit like having solar 10 years ago.

DarkBahamut · 21 Apr 2023 at 11:17

ci_newman said:
You dont need planning permission if you only have a single outdoor unit.

Subcool were around earlier to do a quote for me, let's see what their pricing looks like

You should do, even if it's a single unit.

I've never seen anything in permitted development thats allows air conditioning freely. The whole single unit thing is a Part 14 G allowance, but that's for ASHP and the very first condition is that the system provides heating only. No cooling is allowed. I'd love to find something that does allow it easily (we're looking at it ourselves!).

Now almost no-one applies and the likelyhood is you'd have no trouble, but it isn't quite the same as it not being required.

ci_newman · 21 Apr 2023 at 11:20

DarkBahamut said:
You should do, even if it's a single unit.

I've never seen anything in permitted development thats allows air conditioning freely. The whole single unit thing is a Part 14 G allowance, but that's for ASHP and the very first condition is that the system provides heating only. No cooling is allowed. I'd love to find something that does allow it easily (we're looking at it ourselves!).

Now almost no-one applies and the likelyhood is you'd have no trouble, but it isn't quite the same as it not being required.

I'm just going on the widely shared view online

Do You Need Planning Permission for Air Conditioning Installation? - D-Air

Equip yourself with the facts about air conditioning planning permission to end up with an installation that meets all air conditioning regulations.

www.d-air-conditioning.co.uk

Do I need planning permission for air conditioning | Evergreen AC

Find out whether you need planning permission for air conditioning. All the rules and regulations you need to know before installing your system.

www.evergreenaircon.co.uk

and a non-biased source as they aren't selling A/C themselves

https://www.checkatrade.com/blog/expert-advice/air-conditioning-building-regulations/

SoliD · 21 Apr 2023 at 11:29

@DarkBahamut is correct in that it should apply as it does cooling as well as heating but like many I did not apply.

qbhatti · 21 Apr 2023 at 15:51

So which unit plays nicely with home assistant?

1pudding1 · 21 Apr 2023 at 18:10

Daikin does. My 3 units which are connected to my wireless network at home were automatically detected.

andy_mk3 · 21 Apr 2023 at 19:10

My Fujitsu units work perfectly with this add on https://github.com/deiger/AirCon