Spring Budget 2017

Still banging on about National debt, I thought the cost cutting in previous years was supposed to get rid? (Yes, I know it was never going to happen).
 
Why should the pub industry keep getting handouts?

Pubs selling good food are doing well.

If they do not want to move on, why should the state give them a leg up?
 
Gimpymoo said:
Why should the pub industry keep getting handouts?

Pubs selling good food are doing well.

If they do not want to move on, why should the state give them a leg up?
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Because not everyone wants to drink in an eating pub. We have two pubs in the village. One is now a posh bistro and doing very well for food but has a small bar and isnt a drinking/socializing pub.

Was chatting to the previous landlord a few years ago and he said his rates were £1200 per month and the Brewery charged him another £2000 a month as a Tenant. He basically said if he didnt sell 200 drinks every day he made no profit.
 
Greebo said:
Because not everyone wants to drink in an eating pub. We have two pubs in the village. One is now a posh bistro and doing very well for food but has a small bar and isnt a drinking/socializing pub.

Was chatting to the previous landlord a few years ago and he said his rates were £1200 per month and the Brewery charged him another £2000 a month as a Tenant. He basically said if he didnt sell 200 drinks every day he made no profit.
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Blimey, the brewery are doing all right then?

Blimey, his "starting" costs per month then were probably over £5k without stock or wages. wow.
 
Well a lot of self employed not happy. NI UP tenfold and and instant £600 to £1200 (depending on the rate of tax you pay) extra tax per year for starters.
 
Gimpymoo said:
Blimey, the brewery are doing all right then?

Blimey, his "starting" costs per month then were probably over £5k without stock or wages. wow.
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Problem is big pubs in prime locations are worth more to the Brewery to sell as flats/housing if they charge less rent.
 
Greebo said:
Problem is big pubs in prime locations are worth more to the Brewery to sell as flats/housing if they charge less rent.
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In the majority of the country, rightly or wrongly, the function of a "pub" has changed.

If the brewery's charge too much and are putting themselves at risk, that is their choice but why should the state subsidise them?
 
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Greebo said:
Well a lot of self employed not happy. NI UP tenfold and and instant £600 to £1200 (depending on the rate of tax you pay) extra tax per year for starters.
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And a broken manifesto commitment not to raise NI. While tax parity seems fair it seems inappropriate at this time of the rising gig economy with self employment being used as a dodge by unscrupulous companies.
 
Mr Jack said:
And a broken manifesto commitment not to raise NI. While tax parity seems fair it seems inappropriate at this time of the rising gig economy with self employment being used as a dodge by unscrupulous companies.
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Manifestos are pointless. They had we will not leave the SIngle Market in the last one as well and that's gone out of the window.
 
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