spy state-gate

logicfry · 6 Dec 2014 at 13:25

just spotted this in the news this morning.
not exactly a new law but with the current attitude in a post Snowden age, should more be done about dragnet laws like this?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/12/06/home_affairs_committee_ripa_fine_public_consultation_code/

Diddums · 6 Dec 2014 at 13:26

Tin hat at the ready!

Mynight · 6 Dec 2014 at 13:28

Meh about time they make what they do already legal.

OhEsEcks · 6 Dec 2014 at 13:34

I encrypt everything anyway. Not that I have anything that needs encrypted. But if they ever do come for me I intend on making their job as difficult as possible, as is my wont. Also, bring on the wrench. If they've seen my porn history they know I like it.

LateX'Dog · 6 Dec 2014 at 13:36

OhEsEcks said:
I encrypt everything anyway. Not that I have anything that needs encrypted. But if they ever do come for me I intend on making their job as difficult as possible, as is my want. Also, bring on the wrench. If they've seen my porn history they know I like it.

This!.

Times are changing and the plebs need to wake up and face the patricians.

Cosimo · 6 Dec 2014 at 13:40

Diddums said:
Tin hat at the ready!

Pass it to the usual suspects.

darael · 6 Dec 2014 at 13:44

I ended up reading the linked BOFH article instead.

Tefal · 6 Dec 2014 at 14:16

OhEsEcks said:
I encrypt everything anyway. Not that I have anything that needs encrypted. But if they ever do come for me I intend on making their job as difficult as possible, as is my wont. Also, bring on the wrench. If they've seen my porn history they know I like it.

5 year automatic prison sentence if you don't give the password.

jsmoke · 6 Dec 2014 at 14:28

If you've nothing to hide......

Can't really beat that saying for situations like this, your mentality sounds like dammed if you do dammed if you don't.

OhEsEcks · 6 Dec 2014 at 14:34

Tefal said:
5 year automatic prison sentence if you don't give the password.

I'll take it and fight it from behind bars at the tax payers expense just so I can annoy the tax payers while I'm annoying the judiciary too.

Mynight · 6 Dec 2014 at 14:35

I've always wondered since some of my work is covered by NDAs if I were to supply the password to police would I be breaching the NDAs. It's not specifically mentioned only that I can't release to third party regardless.

Moley · 6 Dec 2014 at 14:36

Tefal said:
5 year automatic prison sentence if you don't give the password.

Use truecrypt (or it's up and coming replacement) and give them the coercion password.

Mynight · 6 Dec 2014 at 14:38

Moley said:
Use truecrypt (or it's up and coming replacement) and give them the coercion password.

Would that not fall under some law like obstructing justice or similar?

I'm sure there's ways to get you regardless.

Amnesia · 6 Dec 2014 at 15:07

Moley said:
Use truecrypt (or it's up and coming replacement) and give them the coercion password.

Hasn't truecrypt been comprimised ?

Steampunk · 6 Dec 2014 at 15:07

Mynight said:
Would that not fall under some law like obstructing justice or similar?

I'm sure there's ways to get you regardless.

How would they know? That's the point of the coercion password.

OhEsEcks · 6 Dec 2014 at 15:09

Amnesia said:
Hasn't truecrypt been comprimised ?

Yes.

Moley · 6 Dec 2014 at 15:17

Amnesia said:
Hasn't truecrypt been comprimised ?

Possibly. The ongoing audit at http://istruecryptauditedyet.com/ hasn't yet come to that conclusion.

dowie · 6 Dec 2014 at 15:20

Mynight said:
I've always wondered since some of my work is covered by NDAs if I were to supply the password to police would I be breaching the NDAs. It's not specifically mentioned only that I can't release to third party regardless.

I don't think the NDA would be enforceable if it attempted to include talking to the police etc...

I'm subject to NDAs and non-compete agreements... the non-compete tries to enforce things I know it can't, the NDA is probably too broad, the employment contract tries to almost own everything I create... you sign these things in the course of your employment if you have to but you can also get advice on them - a lot of them are too wide ranging in scope just as a deterrent and plenty of people break some of the unenforceable bits as a matter of course - you practically have to sometimes when switching jobs - I know I will be at some point in my career... the real question is what can you break with no consequences, what can you break with some limited consequences etc.. what are the risks - will your new employer pay up if you break certain agreements and take a bigger risk.

OhEsEcks · 6 Dec 2014 at 15:22

If any company or organisation suddenly folds and posts a warrant canary, it should be considered compromised.

Moley · 6 Dec 2014 at 15:23

dowie said:
I don't think the NDA would be enforceable if it attempted to include talking to the police etc...

NDAs cannot override your legal obligations. For example if you were under NDA and servicing a customers laptop, if you found kiddie porn on it the NDA wouldn't take away your legal obligation to report that to the police.