SSD "degrading" in perfect disk

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I installed windows 7 2 months ago; i don't notice any real-world degradation but in perfect disk when i analysis the performance goes down a percent or two every week. I left the PC in bios which i heard allows for garbage collection for about 5 hours but that did not change anything nor when i left windows at the log in screen

1) How long do i need to leave the PC in bios/log in screen or put to sleep for GC/performance to be maintained to work?

2) Is the "degradation" normal? I have used consolidate free space twice since install to maintain 100% performance in perfect disk is this okay?

Thanks
 
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Yep, it's very bad. Sends your write amplification to silly levels, reducing the lifespan of the drive. Don't do it.
 
Where did you hear this from? I'd change who I listen to....

I'll make a guess here and say that what he really means ... is that he's read somewhere (OCZ FAQ for one place) that leaving your PC switched on but logged out reduces the number of Windows tasks/processes running, making garbage collection etc. run sooner/better. Never been that convinced myself (but what do I know), but the tech Gurus on the OCZ forums reckon it's worth it.
 
... and isn't exactly productive staying logged out....

Indeed.

Many posts on the OCZ forums about this sort of issue. Can't say I've ever done anything special to keep my drive ticking along. Just use it as normal and strongly resist the urge to keep running speed tests on it. Seems fine to me.
 
I have the Agility 60GB. Yes it was the OCZ website that gave the info about leaving PC logged out and i saw a link somewhere about leaving it in BIOS. Perhaps you need to do this with the first generation of SSDs but not current ones?

1) So what do you do to maintain the health AND performance of your drive?

2) Is the "degradation" in perfect disk normal?

Thanks
 
1) So what do you do to maintain the health AND performance of your drive?

Answer ... Nothing. I just use it as normal. Though mine only supports the OS and main apps (EG. Browser and some other "serious" apps). Everything else (documents/downloads/pictures/music etc.) is automatically targeted to one of several mechanical HD's, as none of this really needs the available speed of an SSD. I also have a dedicated fast HD (WD black) that contains my STEAM folder and games. As once again, I can't see that games benefit much from being on an SSD (except for free roaming games like Stalker that load levels on the fly as you move about).

2) Is the "degradation" in perfect disk normal?

When you say "but in perfect disk when i analysis the performance goes down a percent or two every week. ". Would I be right in assuming that you are running some sort of speed test app like CDM? If so, then this will cause the firmware in your SSD to throttle the write speeds because it sees you bombarding the drive with countless GB's of data! And each time you do this, you are compounding the issue!

When you say "I have used consolidate free space twice since install to maintain 100% performance in perfect disk is this okay?"....
I'm assuming here you are talking about running some sort of Defrag on your SSD! If so, the the answer to this is DON'T. You are just making the situation worse. Basically NEVER EVER DEFRAG (or full format) an SSD.

What you are doing I suspect is making your own problem worse each time you either run one of the many speed test applications (especially ones that write tons of incompressible data).

If you just leave your SSD alone and stop running the sorts of things mentioned above, then your drive over time will start to recover. Though if you've been doing this for too long and too often, then the only option to restore the drive to full health, is to secure erase the drive and re-install Windows. Or back your SSD up with something like Acronis True Image, Secure Erase your SSD, then recover your backup.

If you must run a speed test app, especially on a SandForce based SSD, then run ATTO. Only something like at best, once a month (or even once every other month).

Probably not what you want to hear. But there are many, many posts along these lines floating around on pretty much all the techie forums (including OCZ's).

Good luck.

PS. Use an app like SSDlife to check that trim supported and enabled and maybe AS SSD to check that your main partition is aligned.
 
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I hate to say, but I suspect to recover your "lost" performance. Depending on how long this has been going on for and how many times you've been running things like CDM/ASssd/defreg, then Secure Erasing your SSD and starting again is probably your only real way forward. Unless someone else has any suggestions!?????

If you do go down this route. Once you have recovered your drive to full health and got your OS re-installed (or drive image recovered).... Run ATTO once and post your results here and some else with a similar drive can have a look.

Sorry....

PS. As commented above by Tute.... Write Amplification is the killer of pretty much all Flash memory based products see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Write_amplification
 
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I would uninstall Perfect Disk to avoid concern. As it probably provides performance % based on mechanical drive principle that fragmented files add to seek time. Which is no longer relevant with a SSD.
 
The only way to ensure an SSD retains peak "just installed OS" performance, is to take an image of the new installation, and reinstall it (after a secure erase) every few months or so. This can be a pain if you regularly install software, but keeping recent images is also a blessing should things go wrong. I use Acronis True Image for my imaging and it seems to work well with Win7 64.

Otherwise, just rely on TRIM to keep things nice and spritely.
 
+1 for Acronis TI. Just watch that partition alignment. Unless the latest version has got that sorted!
 
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