SSD's

your only talking about 1-3 secs improvement in load time on the faster SSDs, program loading times be about the same (as they are nome less then 50mb or smaller when starting up)

write data rates are not important, its how they are done (JMicron bad drives)

i have been useing this Corsair S128 drive for an month now and every thing still loads fast when i open programs or games, and i am not getting the degraded speeds that Vertex based SSDs (falcon,aglity) happen once you have filled the SSD (all pages are needing erasing before Write)

as long as its has cache on it, it will fly SSDs are not like HDDs , its the Access times that make them respond fast, there is basicly no delay when doing things when using SSDs, most games that you install are all single player maps does not mean that if the game installs 7GB that the maps that you play online are that big most are 30-100MB in size or load as you move around
 
they are quick you cant really compare HDD to SSDs the same way due to SSDs very low Access times, and the Higher data rate does not mean your pc is going to turn into an super computer at best its 1-5 secs real world as not every thing in windows is sequential reads and comparing SSDs to SSDs is bit like comparing 2 fast cars but the second one has an higher max speed does not mean your going to notice it in real world

most Benchmarks only show sequential read and Writes and a lot get it in there heads that the bigger number means its going to be super fast when most games and programs have to process the data when its been read, SSD to SSD,HDD/RAID you would notice the improvement with faster SSDs but have to be big files and you would norm not do that on SSDs due to wareing them out
 
ok so atm we have
OCZ Agility 120GB (r=230mb/s, w=135mb/s) £252
Samsung PB22-J 128GB (r=220mb/s, w=200mb/s) £258
G.Skill Falcon 128GB (r=230mb/s, w=190mb/s) £268
Corsair p128 128GB (r=220mb/s, w=200mb/s) £270

just purely on numbers and price the samsung looks like the best in this price range. is this a fair assumption or am i missing something? they've all got on board cache of at least 64mb and none use the jmicron controller......so which is best for a standard gaming machine running either vista x64 sp2 or potentially upgrading to win 7 if i get a new drive with 3-4 games installed. Spec is below
 
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but ive read a lot of people saying the samsung does seem to suffer from the write degradation as much over time, so its debatable how much TRIM is needed???
 
but ive read a lot of people saying the samsung does seem to suffer from the write degradation as much over time, so its debatable how much TRIM is needed???

Well no ones debating the degradation. What's being suggested is that the degradation is only really noticable in benchmarks, and access times will still remain the same so that's why some are saying it's not a must. If I was in a buying postition though, I would get the drive with trim if possible. But if not, it's not a must.
 
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