Stalker 2

Ice Rich said:
Out of genuine curiosity - why is it so many games now require patching for sometimes quite obvious things?
I've been out of the loop awhile so probably missing something obvious but back in the day, patches were released for issues the makers didn't know about at the time of release.

I find it hard to believe the makers would see the reported issues and then think 'ahh the AI, we should've tested that'.

*I'm not saying this game has issues, i've not played it yet. Just something that seems to be commonplace with major releases now.
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I suspect in this particular case, the Russians might have had something to say as to why things arent quite as tested as they might have been :)

In a more general sense, I think part of it might be down to how comparatively easy it is to patch things these days compared to the olden days of gaming, its much easier to deploy a patch to a game nowadays than it once was and maybe that makes it easier to say "we'll sort that out in a patch"
 
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PieEater said:
17 minutes to compile textures on a 5800X3D / 6800XT, does it get any quicker the more you kick the game off? It reminds me of the old ZX Spectrum days having to load games from a tape cassette before you could play them only I don't think they took that long.
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Is this your hard drive? :D

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hytin11 said:
Not enjoying it so far.

The interface isn't particularly good, the dialogue is boring, and sadly the game is visually very boring.

My experience so far, found myself stuck at the start not knowing how to use the scanner, only to find myself standing around for 5-10 minutes scanning pools of sludge before the artifact magically appeared, then got killed by an invisible / reappearing monster. A few deaths later, some guy is giving me instructions and how to throw a bolt to reset anomalies, seems simple enough but died getting caught on some invisible terrain. Then passed what appears to be firefight, of course they all turned their weapons on me, at this point all you have a knife, a few more deaths later I manage to kill them, and I have missions. Then I arrive at the first town and the framerate feels like it's dropped to 45fps, it's claiming 90fps but that's just FG BS.

Not sure what to make of it, the atmosphere seems good but I get the impression it's all smoke and mirrors and it's pretty empty actually. The lighting in the game, can look nice but generally looks very dark in the interiors to the point of needing a flashlight during the day.

I will play a little more but this seems pretty bad to me, hopefully the story gets better.
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The gameplay, gameworld and high level of immersion are very similar to Stalker 1 , did you enjoy Stalker 1 or is Stalker 2 your first step into the Stalker-verse?
 
hytin11 said:
If you say so, but the original was well reviewed, and this is getting trashed. Seems to suggest otherwise.
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I wouldnt say its getting trashed in reviews (not that how a game reviews compared to its original should carry any weight on whether you as an individual like a game anyway) , most reviews I've seen put it at a 7/10 or an 8/10 (79% currently on Steam) and in my view getting trashed in reviews is like a 3/10 not a 7 or 8.
 
Just wrapped up another session for tonight, still loving the immersion (looks awesome on the OLED monitor with HDR on), some of the scenes at night , in the woods, with the moonlight shining through, look amazing. As some others have said, I switched to Ukranian voices and it makes a huge difference, not just in terms of atmosphere but in terms of dialogue delivery, pitch, tone and emotion within the voices. Been lucky enough not to hit any major technical issues yet and its running smoothly so hopefully that will continue as I play through.
 
Tek81 said:
What's the general opinion of the v/o? I've tried* to avoid watching any gameplay vids (waiting for fixes before buying), but from the couple I've seen, it sounds a bit "off". I played the original in 2007 and remember the accents being primarily Russian / Ukrainian. Is that the case with the sequel?
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My opinion of the v/o is ,

In English , rather hit or miss, erring more on the miss.

In Ukranian, superb.
 
ICDP said:
Strangely a lot of natural Ukrainian speakers say the Ukrainian voice acting is terrible. Some even put it to English as it sound better. :)

I don’t speak Ukrainian but the voice acting does sound bad in both. It’s the usual lack of urgency that’s the problem. These people are in a high stress scenario and the dialogue sounds like it’s being read of a script in a sound booth.
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To a Ukranian speaker I guess that might be a thing but as a non-Ukranian speaker the atmosphere of the Ukranian voices is a much better fit than the English (or even the English with an accent) :)
 
Frenzy said:
I mean, I'm on the complainers side. I actually meant it should have been early access because thats what devs do when they want the community to QA their game. It was released in such a poor state. I'm glad people are having fun but they really took the pee. Too many people justifying it too.
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Oh dont get me wrong, theres certainly a case for it to have been EA, its just that it wouldnt have stopped the complaints because thats what so many gamers do, moan about every game, forums chock full of people finding something to moan about in every title. As I say, I'm sure there are some people out there who claim that gaming is their hobby and they're gamers, yet turn around and say they havent played a good game for 5 years and I always read that and think then why the hell are you still gaming, I wouldnt do something I dont enjoy for 5 years, so yeah, even if it had come out in EA , the complaining wouldnt have stopped, it would just be complaints about the cost of the EA, or the amount of diskspace it takes up, or the lack of preload, or the audio, or the colours on the screen, or that the gun barrel isnt accurately drawn to match the real gun in RL, or that there's too many (insert race/gender/sexuality) or that there isnt enough (insert race/gender/sexuality) or that their keyboard is dirty or some other complaint. Gamers and moaning goes hand in hand :)
 
Frenzy said:
Well I agree, some complain for the sake of complaining. Steam forums are just troll farms now, Steam needs to do something about it.

But I think the general complacency from the community is due to the erosion of good will within the gaming community over time. A lot of games have been released in poor states. Last one that really annoyed me was cyberpunk. Then there's the corruption of IPs due to trying to extract maximum profit. Dragon age is nothing like what was expected from the franchise. FPS games are skin merchants full of aim botters with no real solution in sight, look at the travesty of the battlefield and call of duty series now. The woke culture complaints in my mind are valid, I have nothing against LGBT and even have some close friends that identify as such but having the agenda shoe horned into everything becoming the main point of whatever film/game it is is getting tiresome (and plenty of LGBT people agree with that), it shouldn't be seen as something "different" it should just be accepted as normal. The reason it is being pushed is because its pop culture right now, again trying to obtain maximum profit. I know you mean well and I get your point but you shouldn't silence people with valid concerns by saying people are just moaning.
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Yeah theres nothing wrong with someone who has complaints about a certain game, or even about a few games, its the people who complain about almost every game that get me (I'm casting one eye at you Mack from Worthabuy :D ), those are the ones where I just roll my eyes at them and think oh look, yet another game this person doesnt like, why do they bother gaming at all they clearly dont enjoy it.
 
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