started Baldur's Gate for 1st time

Matmulder said:
Tell you what though - I miss games like BG2. The scope, variety, replayability and (although I'm loathed to use the phrase) "X" factor which Dragon Age missed, can't say what it is though.
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Completely agree. I'm probably in the minority but I thought Dragon Age was incredibly dull - KOTOR too.

The BG games, Fallout 1&2, Arcanum, and a few others were brilliant. It's a shame that games seem to have taken a step or two back from them.
 
KidCanary said:
Completely agree. I'm probably in the minority but I thought Dragon Age was incredibly dull - KOTOR too.
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I didn't dislike DA - I still enjoyed it, but there was something missing. I've still found absolutely no reason to replay it however, where as with BG2 I immediately restarted once I'd finished.

Shame that Bioware have been infected by EA-itis though, and are dumbing it down for the sequel.

Loved KOTOR, however - freaking awesome story, the characters were brilliantly done too.
 
badcompany said:
restarted with cleric, lets see how that goes but my my it is a fun little game isn't it?
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A few tips.

* Selfbuff. A lot. Even the silly buffs can change the tide of a fight. Barkskin, Chance, Bless, Haste... all those.

* Space bar. Pause immediately, spread your guys out into an effective pattern (see below). One melee per bad guy if possible, as mages lose spell casts if hit. Pause when you've cast a spell, pause when an enemy dies, pause when other enemies enter. That way you can control the entire fight, who goes where, what they do etc.

* Melee at the front, then ranged weapons (rangers), then casters furthest back.

* Even though mages do a truckload of damages, throw a character straight at them. A melee character with super-fast attacks (a dual wield rogue with haste) can happily keep a mage disrupted for the entire fight (with the exception of instacast spell)

* Dont forget abilities. Some character have abilities (not the same as spells) such as in BG2, Minsc has beserk and Jaheira has Animorph. These can be awesome. Also, remember any item abilities.

* If youre going to use Fireball, make sure you pause and begin casting before sending any melee in to meet the enemy. That way, they dont get owned by your own ballistics. Also, if you pause quickly enough, you can negate the enemies self-buffs with Pierce Magic etc (when you get it

* If you dont seem to be beating a particular bad guy, just keep reloading, but dont be afraid to try something different. Fireball not doing any damage? Try casting it sooner, or later. Change your tactics. Use the terrain to block Line of Sight. If your melee is taking too much damage, run him away and make the enemy follow whilst pounding him with range.

* Dont forget you can transfer consumable items between characters mid-fight. And also weapons, but not armour. If your main guy is low on health, throw his sword/mace/weasel to the next guy and let him take over.

Cleric is good, there's a lot of undead in the game and it gives you a nice mini-army. Ranger is awesome too, in the later stages. Like... really good. They have huge range and tend to kill things in one hit before Minsc reaches them. But for starting out you cant go wrong with Cleric, it's the cookie cutter class for owning with. I'd still say it wins over Paladin even with the Holy Avenger.
 
Thing i like about Paladin is that he's an anti-magic beast as soon as he gets the Holy Avenger. Dispel on hit and three casts of dispel means even the most powerful mages are fodder for him. But he's also got some decent healing spellage and can take on most melee enemies one on one too.
 
I think i may have to try this game again. I have owned BG1 and expansion for many year, but it has just been sitting there on my shelf. I dont think i have ever got very far :(
 
I completed BG and BG2 6 times between them. I must have spent years on those games, just replaying and trying different classes out.

My top tip is use the Summon Monster/Animal spells and wands. Using a truckload of them I managed to kill Drizzt. You can use them as obstacles, too. Drizzt chased me around a hub of skeletons for about an hour while I ranged him.
 
It's a tough old game at the start, which is why I still hold it in such high regard, but as several others have alluded too, just go for the eyes and you can't go wrong.

Streeteh said:
Paladin is probably the best character from start to finish. By that i mean he's still quite easy in the beginning and becomes very strong as he levels.

The monk however is the best class at high levels imo, by the time you reach throne of bhaal he's just untouchable. Unfortunately they're incredibly weak at level 1 which makes things difficult at the start.


The game gets so much easier once your party has leveled up.
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The Monk was "fire and forget" in BG2 and ToB. In one or two large encounters I just let the group fight without my intervention. Everyone else dies but my monk just wiped the floor with everything. I liked it! :D
Alexrose1uk said:
Loads of fun by the end of BG2 though with disintegrations etc...just dont use fireball...its just as fatal to you as them!
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That was an infuriating, but occasionally hilarious fault with Neverwinter Nights 2 as well. Recruit a fireball wielding sorcerer and you'd wipe out in every single encounter. 'Attack the lone rat everyone.. Charge!' Hang on WTF is that!? BOOOOOOM!' Reload. :D
 
Trick I found with fireballs is just to send a lone tank in after drinking a magic invulnrability potion, then fireball away :D
 
Montaron I....never loved you!

Such a great game. Make sure you pick up Coran (the archer) when you get the opportunity. He's crazy powerful as I recall.
 
Jokester said:
Trick I found with fireballs is just to send a lone tank in after drinking a magic invulnrability potion, then fireball away :D
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I used to send my stealthed rogue ahead of everyone, then when she found a group, my Mage would move up and make em extra crispy.
 
heh, great game.

I remember killing Drizzt Do'Urden (some kind of hardcore elf type dude who dropped awesome weapons and armour) with some wand that was bugged that had infinite charges. I think it would summon lots of gnolls or something. You would constantly summon them to surround him and he would be hostile to them and not to your party. I think it took me about 15 minutes of constant summoning to eventually kill him but the loot he dropped was great and i think i used his stuff til the end of the game :)
 
Drizzt is a fairly legendary character in terms of the Forgotten Realms setting Baldur's Gate is set in, which is why his equipment is so good :D
You're not really meant to kill him, as he's a good guy heh
 
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heh well when i played the game for the first time i didnt have any idea who he was. He just seemed like one tough dude so i thought ow he must be a bonus boss or something. He had great loot i remember in the form of some crazy good chest armour and 2 awesome swords.
 
Yeah, Drow Mithril and his two signature scimitars, which are both like +3/4/5 or something.
I haven't read that much D&D as Im not a D&D player or anything, but the Drizzt book he came from are very good reads.
 
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