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starter motor problem?

Discussion in 'Biker's Cafe' started by Bolerus, Oct 31, 2019.

  1. Bolerus


    Joined: Jul 7, 2006

    Posts: 941

    Location: Stoke on Trent

    hi guys,
    first off im very new to powered 2 wheel travel, and really dont know much about engines anyway

    I have a piaggio xevo 125 scooter, which im using to commute from longton to crewe ( and to be fair i love it)

    last few days i have been having an issue, which started after the heavy downpour of rain at the weekend
    ( i keep the bike outside, but covered with a rain cover- have no other option)

    so the issue is. when i am trying to start it sometimes, it will try to start ( the starter motor goes through its process) but fails to start and it ends with a noise that sounds kind of like throwing a marble into a can

    the first time, ( sunday) it took about 4 attempts, then started. didnt use the bike monday. tuesday it started first time, no marble noise, same wednesday. then this morning we are back to throwing marbles, and and it took 5 or 6 goes before it started. left it running for 5 minutes, nipped to shop, waited in there 10 mins, and scoot started first time

    is this just a case of it being cold, because of the weather, and any body have any idea what the marble in a can noise is at the end of the starter cycle ( only when it faisl to start up though)

    any advice, views woudl be appreciated.

  2. tom_e

    Man of Honour

    Joined: Dec 26, 2003

    Posts: 26,857

    Location: West mids

    I'd check the battery first as a weak one will show when trying to fire it up especially when it's cold.
  3. Bolerus


    Joined: Jul 7, 2006

    Posts: 941

    Location: Stoke on Trent

    thanks tom, i was thinking id give the battery a charge over the weekend see if that helps
  4. unKle

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Oct 24, 2002

    Posts: 1,261

    Location: Kent

    As tom_e says, go for the battery and check the connections to the battery too. Start simple and don't dive in too deep.

    The noise you refer to could be the CVT, worn bushes/rollers in the variator would make that marble in a can noise you refer to. It's quite common on mopeds as they all use that style of transmission.

    Have a look at the vid below from 4 mins onwards, you can see what I mean as he strips apart the variator.