Starter sound system for TV

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Hi,

I have a modest TV, 43" W75 Sony Android TV from 2015 (I think). Might be able to swing a 49" or 55" XE8/9 shortly.

Unfortunately the sound is lacking, and was hooked up to a Dell 2 + sub I had lying around, not so good.

Any recommendations for an upgrade to this?

Surround system, 2.1 or 5.1? Amp and 2 speakers? Soundbar?

Thanks all!
 
Budget?

Start with Amp and 2 speakers, then can always add to it, unless you feel you never will and just want a sound bar.
 
All depends on budget from £200 htib to hundreds of thousands of pounds.

Then if you want quality 2 channel so need better higher quality speakers.

How upgradeable do you want the system to be and avr connectivity.

Preference for side rear speaker type.

Preference for subwoofer type and room size expected levels, for music or movies.
 
Budget?

Start with Amp and 2 speakers, then can always add to it, unless you feel you never will and just want a sound bar.

Knew I would forget something, £3-500 would be nice, lower the better.

I simply want something to sound good, with a bit more feel to it if you know what I mean.
 
For that budget I'd look into stereo. Say £200 AVR with £300 speakers, that will get you a decent system and you can upgrade as you go. Go for standmount speakers.

It's possible to get high end floorstanders second hand, for example Celestion A2's I have seen for £300, these were £1600 when new.
 
For that budget I'd look into stereo. Say £200 AVR with £300 speakers, that will get you a decent system and you can upgrade as you go. Go for standmount speakers.

It's possible to get high end floorstanders second hand, for example Celestion A2's I have seen for £300, these were £1600 when new.

Thanks!

Thinking about this more, it will be for a living room, rather than independent room. So basically something the gf can live with.

How do we all feel about soundbars? Or is that an unspeakable word?
 
Soundbars (and soundbases) can be okay if all you want is just "a bit better sound " in a small package. Most won't set the world on fire in terms of audio fidelity, but compared to truly dreadful speakers in your typical wafer-thin LED TV then they're a big improvement. There are a few things to watch out for though.

Remotes
- Any soundbar working from Optical can't be controlled via the telly remote unless the soundbar has some kind of learning feature e.g. Sonos Playbar. That means juggling remotes unless you buy a Harmony or similar system-remote to control everything. That can be a P.I.T.A. The solution is HDMI control (CEC / BraviaSync etc) so have a look if your telly has HDMI ARC and then look for soundbars with HDMI ARC as well.

- Basic cheapie soundbars with just an Aux can be fed from the TV's headphone out if it has one, but this feature is getting thin on the ground. The other consideration with headphone jack is some TVs have a separate sub menu for controlling that volume independently of the main TV Vol buttons. Another P.I.T.A. if every time you want to turn the telly up or down you have to navigate through the menus to get to it. HDMI ARC is your friend.


Built-in subwoofer
- Er... no. That's just marketing bullocks ( ;) ), or to use the Scottish vernacular, pish. If your soundbar is the size of a baguette loaf then there ain't room inside for speakers big enough to qualify as a sub. The mid-bass will go deeper than the TV, sure, but it's not going to do a Barry White impression regardless of what the brochure or the salesman says.


It has Bluetooth and NFC and Wi-Fi and Netflix and makes the coffee and...and...and
- Yeah? But how does it sound?


It's the same make a the TV so it works better with it
- More pish. Some of the best soundbars come from companies that have sod all to do with making tellies. They're made by audio companies, by people who listen to sound, and who spend their working lives making speakers.

Conversely, some of the worst soundbars come from companies that do make TVs. LG is mediocre at best on soundbars, and one of my customers insisted on buying a £700 Sony soundbar with his 65XE9005 and honestly he could have got better sound at half the price.



The bottom line is that if you're spending £200-£300 on a soundbar then you should get something pretty decent if you look at audio manufacturers rather than TV brands. Canton, JBL, Q Acoustics, Yamaha, Polk, Heos (Denon) all spring to mind. Ultimately they're all more limited than an AV receiver coupled with a pair of speakers, but it's horses for courses.
 
Thanks @lucid for the super informative post!

I had been looking at soundbars with ARC as my Sony 43W756C has ARC. Oddly enough, I hadn't really considered other brands, was sticking with Sony, will do now!

Now I'm looking at a an entry level Yamaha RXV383, perhaps pair that with a set of speakers. Would I also need a sub to accompany that, or will the speakers carry the full range?
 
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Thanks @lucid for the super informative post!

I had been looking at soundbars with ARC as my Sony 432W756C has ARC. Oddly enough, I hadn't really considered other brands, was sticking with Sony, will do now!

Now I'm looking at a an entry level Yamaha RXV383, perhaps pair that with a set of speakers. Would I also need a sub to accompany that, or will the speakers carry the full range?


Not many speakers are "full range", you're looking at massive floorstanders with 10" or 12" subwoofers built into each cabinet, even mine with 3 x 8" woofers aren't full range. A sub is highly recommended, because any standmount/bookshelf has limited bass response so you need a sub to reach under that speakers response, bass is re-directed from the 5.0 speakers sent to the sub, with the .1 channel into a "total" LFE channel
 
Thanks for all the input with this!

I have decided to go with amplifier and 2 standmount speakers. I was actually gifted an Denon 2105 amp. It is on the old side, 2005 I think, but for a basic system which works with the TV, it should be fine? I'm not needing 4k, ultra audio, Atmos, etc.

Should be getting speakers tomorrow! Liking some Q acoustics 3020, DALI Spektor 2, or similar.

All sound ok?
 
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