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anyway if steam doesnt know its there microsoft does and hence your goverment knows and their subsidiaries.
 
On what do you base that claim? Assuming your premise is that downloading is "stealing", please can you site a single source that actually provides evidence of that - that a download has ever equaled a lost sale?

If you can't, then your premise is actually, I don't like what you did, therefore you should have your steam account banned. Well, by that basis, I don't like your post, lets ban your steam account...

Oh dear. Get over yourself? :rolleyes:

I didn't mention stealing nor compare piracy to it any any way.

Copyright infringement is against the law, and regardless of legality an immoral and scummy thing to do. What right do you have to obtain the fruits of other peoples labours for free? None, with no ifs or buts. Pirates just want something for nothing regardless of the other excuses they produce. If you dont know if you want to pay for something, don't.

I stand by what I said, regardless of how legal or illegal piracy is, I wouldn't give a toss if the people that participate in it were punished.
 
I will pirate a game and if I like it I buy it, if they released a demo for every single game piracy would drop, but so would sales as we would find out how crap most games are before parting with our cash.

how about if you were able to buy a game knowing that it is of a decent playable quality, maybe it's time for someone other than the publishers to decide if a game is released or not. then we wouldnt end up with "crap"


if you buy it then and don't like it tough.
 
No, Steam won't disable your account.
The only time Steam disables accounts is things like charge backs, fraud and other such offenses, Steam does not scan your files to be able to detect if you have a pirated game installed or not, even if it does normally require Steam to play.
 
if you buy it then and don't like it tough.

Nah, that's why piracy can be awesome.

Put it this way if I had never pirated S.T.A.L.K.E.R SoC then I never would have spent over £80 on the sequels.
 
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Nah, that's why piracy can be awesome.

Put it this way if I had never pirated S.T.A.L.K.E.R SoC then I never would have spent over £80 on the sequels.

and the game you binned but played and never paid for the developer might have gone on to develop the game of the century.
 
very short minded view.

Are you planning to present anything to back up your view, or are we just meant to take your word for it? I would love to know how you consider an act that takes something away from someone is the same as an act that dosen't.


Oh dear. Get over yourself? :rolleyes:

I didn't mention stealing nor compare piracy to it any any way.

Copyright infringement is against the law, and regardless of legality an immoral and scummy thing to do. What right do you have to obtain the fruits of other peoples labours for free? None, with no ifs or buts. Pirates just want something for nothing regardless of the other excuses they produce. If you dont know if you want to pay for something, don't.

I stand by what I said, regardless of how legal or illegal piracy is, I wouldn't give a toss if the people that participate in it were punished.

I find it interesting that every time I enter a debate on this subject people always throw the "Its scummy and immoral" argument at me. I didn't say it wasn't (I'm not saying it is either mind you). That isn't my point and I never said it was.

My point is that you are saying people deserve to be punished for this "crime" by having their steam accounts banned. This is presumably in addition to the legal repercussions that could/should be brought by the law (Or are you saying this should be the punishment metered out by the courts? Frankly its much better than what we are currently seeing), so if we take the legal side out of the equasion, my example stands. You don't like pirates (you think they are scummyO and think thier accounts should be banned. So why can't my objection to your post get your steam account banned? Say I think your post is scummy?

p.s. - I don't think its scummy by the way, I'm just trying to make a point
 
lets not bring big corporate scum into this thread, they went round buying dev companies with one reason in mind.
 
Piracy is wrong but since most games don't provide a demo it doesn't really leave you a choice. I can't afford to shell out for what may be a crap game.

Other things like the fact that a lot of the time the pirated game is actually superior to the genuine article don't help. A pirated game doesn't require a disk and has no crappy activation limits.
 
Another amazing, well informed point, I bet that took you a while!

Steam don't ban for you running cracked steam games on your machine. Oh, and piracy by definition is not theft.

and his "what" wasnt a bait? forum needs an ignore feature tbh.
 
I can't beleive anyone still uses this argument. I am going to explain this very slowly, in the hope that you are the last person left who hasn't heard it.

Stealing. A. Car. Deprives. The. Owner. Of. That. Car.

To equate to "real life" theft, the original owner must be deprived of something that they would have had, if your actions had not taken place. If "Tim" downloads something made by "Ben", then Ben is only worse off by the implied theory that Tim owes Ben the value that would normally be charged for this "thing". Ben still has his thing, he is still able to sell his thing. He is not missing anything that he had before Tim downloaded the thing.

I do want to be clear, I'm not saying that pirating is morally correct, I don't deny that in many instances that Tim is downloading something that Ben created, and that he does not want him to download, however, I am sick to death of this deeply flawed argument.


I've never really thought about this much before but your right. Its pretty obvious that copying something is not the same as stealing it.

What would happen if anyone really invented a 'star trek' replicator. People would go ballistic claiming it was stealing everything it produced yet it would be a massive benefit to society. It could even feed the 3rd world but I suppose food producers would say it was stealing.
 
I will pirate a game and if I like it I buy it, if they released a demo for every single game piracy would drop, but so would sales as we would find out how crap most games are before parting with our cash.

I agree. This is one of the main reasons most people pirate, because 9 out of 10 games right now are utter trash that isn't worth £30-50.
 
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