Steam Machine

Interesting what they managed to cram into such a small space, with a built in PSU.

Could be a decent little portable PC for gaming when working away etc.
 
Obviously depends on how much you're spending on the SD card as well - top tier ones are exceptionally quick and have great endurance.
I thought this too but it is apparently limited to UHS-I speed, so you're looking at ~100MBps max.
 
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I thought this too but it is apparently limited to UHS-I speed, so you're looking at ~100MBps max.
I honestly can't remember which SD (512GB) I have in the Steam deck but I know what's on it and plays fine :

Forza Horizon 4; Wolfenstein (the boring cutscene one); Sonix X Shadow Generations; Star Wars Squadrons; Alien Isolation; CYGNI, Ultra Street Fighter 4

Internal NVMe has a lot of emulation stuff on it plus stuff like Diablo 4 which gets loads of updates. Thermals are a lot better on the NVMe than the SD card slot.
 
I honestly can't remember which SD (512GB) I have in the Steam deck but I know what's on it and plays fine :

Forza Horizon 4; Wolfenstein (the boring cutscene one); Sonix X Shadow Generations; Star Wars Squadrons; Alien Isolation; CYGNI, Ultra Street Fighter 4

Internal NVMe has a lot of emulation stuff on it plus stuff like Diablo 4 which gets loads of updates. Thermals are a lot better on the NVMe than the SD card slot.
Ah that's good to hear, I just want to make sure people are aware as I had presumed they'd ramp it up for some superfast reading. This hopefully means they are really going hard on the value aspect and will pass that on... Come on Valve!
 
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Ah that's good to hear, I just want to make sure people are aware as I had presumed they'd ramp it up for some superfast reading. This hopefully means they are really going hard on the value aspect and will pass that on... Come on Valve!
You may find Valve have a different idea of "value aspect" to you ;)

Based on current UK Steam Deck pricing I reckon it'll be £850 for the base spec Steam Machine, £1k for the 2TB spec. The way memory and SSD prices are going then it may be even more initially.

For those of you who haven't used SteamOS yet (don't have a Deck) its worth bearing in mind this is a GUI with emulation/optimisation (Proton does that - better than native Windows usually) on top of Arch Linux. That means you can switch to the desktop and use whatever you want - browsers, office stuff, game platform emulators (many) etc etc.

The downside of this flexibility is that game companies are increasingly adding "kernel-level" DRM/"anticheat" to games and that currently prevents Proton running them. If you have a search around I'm sure you'll find a lot of reasons/whinging (depends on your POV) why the games companies feel they have to do this. Its not a big deal yet but some games/franchises seem to be heading that way, which frankly I feel is incompatible with being listed on Steam but meh, there we go :)
 
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I really like the look of this, but it does depend on the price... I think anyhting over 500 and it's going ot be a hard sell.

this is where i think they will slip up(at first, then price drops), obveusally there is no price into but there expecting $800 to $1000 and we are normally on a 1:1 ratio when it comes to tech prices
 
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this is where i think they will slip up(at first, then price drops), obveusally there is no price into but there expecting $800 to $1000 and we are normally on a 1:1 ratio when it comes to tech prices
Yeah I am getting that feeling and if it comes out at closer to the 1000 mark then you'd be better off building your own box.
 
I really like the look of this, but it does depend on the price... I think anyhting over 500 and it's going ot be a hard sell.
Given the current DRAM/NAND pricing situation, plus taking into account the way the current-gen consoles have increased in price since launch (I appreciate the Steam Machine isn't directly competing with them, but still relevant) I think £/$500 is just far too optimistic unfortunately. I think £650-700 is probably the best we could reasonably hope for on the 512GB model without controller, but I won't be the least bit surprised if it's higher.

A shame, because I'd love one as a living room machine to play some of my older/indie games from my Steam backlog on, but I can't justify spending that much to do it.
 
If that post from Linus is true and not just him reading it wrong, then probably fall in the range of $599-799.

That's already going to be a no for many people but not a deal breaker when you think of it as an easy way to get a large chunk of your Steam games into the living room.

At that price I'd be more inclined to put it towards a new PC and use my current one as a "console". Unfortunately pricing in general for gaming is probably the worst it's ever been.
 
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If that post from Linus is true and not just him reading it wrong, then probably fall in the range of $599-799.

That's already going to be a no for many people but not a deal breaker when you think of it as an easy way to get a large chunk of your Steam games into the living room.

At that price I'd be more inclined to put it towards a new PC and use my current one as a "console". Unfortunately pricing in general for gaming is probably the worst it's ever been.
Shield TV and Steam Link is already very effective at doing just that, at a fraction of the cost, plus you can rely on your computer GPU for graphics. Steam Machine would need to be a console replacement, relying on the vast Steam library to support launch. If you're giving better than PS5 performance, with a huge game library that are sold at a fraction of the cost of console games, then there's probably a good market for it. But likely need to change the perception that this is a PC-lite and more a console-pro.
 
Shield TV and Steam Link is already very effective at doing just that, at a fraction of the cost, plus you can rely on your computer GPU for graphics. Steam Machine would need to be a console replacement, relying on the vast Steam library to support launch. If you're giving better than PS5 performance, with a huge game library that are sold at a fraction of the cost of console games, then there's probably a good market for it. But likely need to change the perception that this is a PC-lite and more a console-pro.
I haven’t tried that specific combo but in my experience it’s a pretty poor experience as far as graphical quality goes but obviously quite a few factors involved so I imagine it works better for some. Otherwise yes, that would be an ideal setup.
 
AMD's linux drivers are open source and the HDMI Forum rejects that open source principle so it can only be 2.0 is the short answer. AMD is not a member of the HDMI Forum because their drivers are open source. This is why everyone using Linux uses AMD instead of closed "blobs" from NVidia. Return to start of sentence. Rinse/repeat for 5 years and counting....

Edit - the above is simplified and shortened. Think of it as an ongoing war and you wouldn't be far off the mark :D

Crikey. So AMD are only allowed to ship HDMI 2.1 cards because they're meant for Windows?
Looks like it's sort of HDMI 2.1 compatible, article here explains it a little better.

 
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