SteamOS will be available to download tomorrow (13th Dec)
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Ironic somewhat if it's for Bf4 mantle.
Hi, look at the latest aaa game running on our free os.
Ignoring it's origin, and it's one game.
OpenGL really needs to take off on gaming front if Linux is going to have any serious chance as a gaming OS.
I wonder how long before Nvidia and AMD decide to follow Steam ie Nvidia OS,AMD OS for gaming.
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I can see other things being a problem also..
With current linux distributions, you tend to have some rather proprietary installation packages, which result in developers having multiple releases of a piece of software, to suit different distributions; .RPM files for Redhat, Debain used .DEB and so on. I know that more modern distro's dont have so many issues, but still, the vast majority of end users, are not going to want the hassle, or know what is under the hood. They just want something that is going to work.
You may complain about microsoft and bloatware, but you are very much in the minority, this whole forum, is a minority when it comes to the games industry. SteamOS will only succeed if it is released in a highly polished form, which isn't what they will do.
They will release it, and there will be thousands that install it without knowing what they are doing, and they will fall into every trap, every pitfall, and very quickly, they will abandon it, never to look back.
Valve has made their DMC-12, and I for one, wish them luck with it.. they're going to need it.
With current linux distributions, you tend to have some rather proprietary installation packages, which result in developers having multiple releases of a piece of software, to suit different distributions; .RPM files for Redhat, Debain used .DEB and so on. I know that more modern distro's dont have so many issues, but still, the vast majority of end users, are not going to want the hassle, or know what is under the hood. They just want something that is going to work.
You may complain about microsoft and bloatware, but you are very much in the minority, this whole forum, is a minority when it comes to the games industry. SteamOS will only succeed if it is released in a highly polished form, which isn't what they will do.
They will release it, and there will be thousands that install it without knowing what they are doing, and they will fall into every trap, every pitfall, and very quickly, they will abandon it, never to look back.
Valve has made their DMC-12, and I for one, wish them luck with it.. they're going to need it.
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I'd imagine it should work once the drivers are up to scratch, the mantle API talks straight to the card and doesn't require any intermediary APIs such as DirectX and OpenGL. Being a low level API it should be fairly platform independent.
If anything, Mantle might make Steam OS (and any other Linux distro) a more appealing prospect for gaming in the long run.
Mantle might be bad for gamers in general but that's a discussion for a different thread.
I'm looking forward to test driving Steam OS when I get home, even if it's not for me I'd like to see Valve succeed in this venture.
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With Valve behind Steam OS and the fact that it is free, I'd say it has a good chance of being successful.
Yes, as long as you never want to be able to buy any games from anywhere other than Steam and be locked in with DRM preventing you from every selling or buying the games you bought second hand.
Can you imagine if MS released a PC "gaming" OS that only allowed you to buy games from the MS store with no resale etc - there'd be people with keyboards stalking the street looking a little bit cross.
Can you imagine if MS released a PC "gaming" OS that only allowed you to buy games from the MS store with no resale etc - there'd be people with keyboards stalking the street looking a little bit cross.
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Yes, as long as you never want to be able to buy any games from anywhere other than Steam and be locked in with DRM preventing you from every selling or buying the games you bought second hand.
Can you imagine if MS released a PC "gaming" OS that only allowed you to buy games from the MS store with no resale etc - there'd be people with keyboards stalking the street looking a little bit cross.
This isn't Valve trying to push a new store by locking it into a new OS. Steam is already the dominant digital delivery platform. Hundreds of millions of people buy their content from Steam already, most on a Windows OS that would have cost them a fair few £££'s too.
This is not a new ecosystem, its just a new route to access the already dominant one. The concerns about being locked to Steam games you can't resell are irrelevant, put to bed years ago by the popularity of Steam as is.
Can you imagine if MS released a PC "gaming" OS that only allowed you to buy games from the MS store with no resale etc - there'd be people with keyboards stalking the street looking a little bit cross.
So an Xbox, basically.
It's linux so it will be possible to manually install the AMD drivers in some way using the command line. AMD driver performance isn't great on Linux however.