Stock 6600 temps too high?

[Scope]

Hi,

My 6600 is running everything at stock expect Im using an Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro CPU Cooler rather than the stock cooler.. I removed the paste that was applied on the Arctic Cooler and applied a line of AS5 (as instructed on their website) and tried to move the Heatsink around a bit to spread it.

My idle core temps (from TAT) are around 46-47 which seems a bit high to me.. running TAT with 100% on both cores for 15-20 minutes takes the temp up to 62-63.. Is this too high? Should I try to reseat the Arctic Cooler? Im hoping to overclock at the stage, and I guess if I did the temps would go up aswell.

 

[JonD]

My e6600 (Stock) with AC7 idles round about 34, load up to 45.

So yeh it looks high to me. Im using the retail paste that came with the AC7.

 

[Scope]

I've tried re-seating the arctic cooler 4-5 times, each time cleaning the AS5 and applying another thin layer.. I've even tried facing the fan the other way (which made it even worse) - nothing seems to help.. The thing is, the temp goes up to 45-46 straight away (as soon as I switch the machine on), so its not like its heating up.. I know the Arctic is supposed to be up for the job, but Im not sure what im doing wrong.. Is it possible some CPU'n cant be cooled down to the level some people are getting? I'd be happy with 35, but at the moment it is running at 46-47, idle. Personally I think the design of the old heatsinks work better, with the fan blowing down on the CPU aswell as cooling down the heatsink..

Are the 3 buttom layers of the arctic cooler 7 pro supposed to be bent? Mine are, so Im wondering if its something wrong with it...

 

[Rroff]

On stock speeds I was getting 28-30C idle and 40-42C underload with the ACF 7 pro + E6600, now I'm overclocking and it never goes over 55C loaded and usually is at 42C idle 50-52C under max load @ 3.6gig...

you might need to play with smartFAN settings or force the fan full on, etc. to get decent temps...

 

[Scope]

you might need to play with smartFAN settings or force the fan full on, etc. to get decent temps...

I have been looking for this.. where is it?

edit: Sorry, I've got a Gigabyte 965-S3 motherboard.

 

[Scope]

Rroff: are those temps of the CPU or directly from the Cores? My CPU temps are around 35 (I think).. Its the core temps Im worried about. (should I be?)

Also, does your ACF 7 pro have all straight blades (?), or are some of them bent?

 

[200sx]

My e6600 with a newly installed ACF7p (AS5 installed as per AS instructions) idles at around 46c and under load goes up to 57c. Running PWM speed control. This is with an ambient temperature of 22c.

It's running at 3Ghz as per sig and I'm having to put 1.43v through it to be Orthos stable.

Are my e6600 temps high? I think they are.

Does the temp affect stability? No.

Am I happy with the performance at 3Ghz? Hell yeah

 

[Scope]

My e6600 with a newly installed ACF7p (AS5 installed as per AS instructions) idles at around 46c and under load goes up to 57c. Running PWM speed control. This is with an ambient temperature of 22c.

Is this the temp of the CPU or the Core(s)?

 

[Rroff]

Rroff: are those temps of the CPU or directly from the Cores? My CPU temps are around 35 (I think).. Its the core temps Im worried about. (should I be?)

Also, does your ACF 7 pro have all straight blades (?), or are some of them bent?

I use the lowest value from core temp when quoting, one core is usually 1-2C higher than the other.

How do you mean bent/straight? my C2D box is on atm so I can't see the blades to tell...

 

[Rroff]

My e6600 with a newly installed ACF7p (AS5 installed as per AS instructions) idles at around 46c and under load goes up to 57c. Running PWM speed control. This is with an ambient temperature of 22c.

It's running at 3Ghz as per sig and I'm having to put 1.43v through it to be Orthos stable.

Are my e6600 temps high? I think they are.

Does the temp affect stability? No.

Am I happy with the performance at 3Ghz? Hell yeah

3gig is very nice performance on a conroe and atm pretty much all the average gamer needs unless they have an 8800GTX SLI setup... my E6600 is orthos stable at 3gig on stock voltage (its actually running at 1.31 due to drooping) mine is stable upto about 3.15ish on stock voltage. 1.43v would get me stable upto about 3.45gig possibly 3.5gig.

 

[200sx]

Is this the temp of the CPU or the Core(s)?

The core temps, using both TAT and coretemp, taken the highest of the values. Core difference is never more than 2c.

In games the temps never exceed 51c. Only goes to 57c when running small fft in orthos.

I would strongly recommend swapping the ACF7p mounting pins with the stock cooler's.

The Intel pins give a much firmer installation.

 

[Scope]

I use the lowest value from core temp when quoting, one core is usually 1-2C higher than the other.

How do you mean bent/straight? my C2D box is on atm so I can't see the blades to tell...

3 of the blade were bent downwards, the rest straight.

I've managed to get it idle on 40 now, so slightly better.. I'll leave it to rest for a while then test it to see how high the temp will go.

 

[Scope]

I would strongly recommend swapping the ACF7p mounting pins with the stock cooler's.

The Intel pins give a much firmer installation.

I knew I should have bought the retail version, but instead I went for the OEM version.. Oh well.

 

[200sx]

3gig is very nice performance on a conroe and atm pretty much all the average gamer needs unless they have an 8800GTX SLI setup... my E6600 is orthos stable at 3gig on stock voltage (its actually running at 1.31 due to drooping) mine is stable upto about 3.15ish on stock voltage. 1.43v would get me stable upto about 3.45gig possibly 3.5gig.

I would love to put fewer volts through it. It's stable as far as games go on 1.38v but fails in orthos after 10 mins or so.

I do get a voltage droop to 1.408v according to cpu-z when stressing the cpu, 1.424v when idling. I'm not sure how accurate these figures are though

I've noticed a strange thing though. Going by the DS3 overclocking guide, setting the vcore to 1.45v results in cpu-z reporting 1.438v then 1.212v then back again every couple of seconds.

 

[Rroff]

CPU-Z has (a bug) trouble handling core voltages over ~1.4 for some reason and displays them incorrectly... your voltage is probably very close to the limit and fluctuating slightly pushing it beyond CPU-Z's abilities...

 

[Scope]

Now we are talking! I disabled smartfan and idle went from 40 idle to 24. Guess that means I can overclock after all.

 

[200sx]

Now we are talking! I disabled smartfan and idle went from 40 idle to 24. Guess that means I can overclock after all.

Get on with it then!

edit. and the bottom few blades are meant to point downwards to cool the votage regulators on the board

 

[PaulProteus]

Now we are talking! I disabled smartfan and idle went from 40 idle to 24. Guess that means I can overclock after all.

Scope, there is a thread

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17638510

that could explain your temps. You might get even better results if you lap the AC7 base.

I have also seen that whenever use SmartFan-like programs (I am with ASUS A8N-Sli) my iddle temps go trhough the roof. The threshold for the fan kicking off at full speed are rather high. Now I am running my CPU fan at full speed and mine (X2 4800) iddles at 29-30 and 45-48 under load.

 

[techmob]

3 of the blade were bent downwards, the rest straight.

I've managed to get it idle on 40 now, so slightly better.. I'll leave it to rest for a while then test it to see how high the temp will go.

what did you do, to drop it 5 deg

cheers

 

[peetee]

my 4300 hits 69 on full load. AC7 etc. Having a fiddle with it tommorow.