Stranger Things (Netflix)

unwashed potato! said:
The feeling I have after a couple of days thought is that I'm gutted to not have had a proper decisive answer for elevens ending.

I know we don't know what any character does going forward, maybe hop and Joyce do move to the beach, maybe Mike finds a new love, maybe Jonathan and Nancy get back together, the show doesn't give us those answers, but we get a direction for each of our main characters and a glimpse at the chance of happiness that they now have. Eleven it's up to us to decide if we believe or not, but no idea if she actually has a chance of survival or if she gave up and killed herself.

If you put look at her death, it would suggest Mike's version is the close to the truth, as how could she sneak out that truck unnoticed, how could she use her powers if those machines were on and if they work across our land to the upside down etc.

Depending how well this prequel spin off goes, I can see a 6th season being made set 10 years in the future (takes them that long to film a new season right) or a new series altogether set way in the future kind of like how IT does it with the kids in the firs half and then full grown adults in the second, where el comes back along with some of the rest of the cast.
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I hate endings like that because I always want to know without reasonable doubt whereas the creators said it is up to the "viewers" to decide which I hate because I can never decide!

Either ending is pretty horrible either way. Everyone else got a great ending (Max still managed to graduate whilst being in a coma for 2 years!) yet the person who got abused for 10+ years and had to kill countless people just to survive has to leave her loving family and friends. It is all pretty grim.
 
My friend is about to drag me into some theory bandwagon nonsense (awaiting some videos on WhatsApp). Apparently the last episode....

...wasn't real and was Venca's mind. There's supposedly a secret last episode due shortly.

99.9% not going to happen but I love my a theory rabbit hole.

Edit - did notice a couple of these production mistakes which are being used as evidence but thought nothing of it at the time. Some of it is compelling but surely Netflix couldn't hide a last episode like this?
 
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I quite enjoyed the last episode, with one major gripe:
Figuring out how to get to The Abyss was a pretty big portion of the episode, but they didn't say anything whatsoever about how they got back
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Aside from that it felt quite well wrapped up.

Be interested to see how the spin-off goes, as the Duffers have said categorically we'll never see the original cast again.
 
I enjoyed it, however it felt a bit like Game of Thrones / Lost where they had to make up some ending all in the final season. The whole explanation of the upsidedown felt really sudden, and that it should have been explained in the previous season and built up over time.
 
I agree the explanation could have been a little more fleshed out.

wormholes don't connect different realities/dimensions, they connect different points in spacetime, and the funnel itself wouldn't support an upside-down-type sitch
But then, I guess it's science fiction ;-)
 
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Arterion said:
I quite enjoyed the last episode, with one major gripe:
Figuring out how to get to The Abyss was a pretty big portion of the episode, but they didn't say anything whatsoever about how they got back
.

Aside from that it felt quite well wrapped up.

Be interested to see how the spin-off goes, as the Duffers have said categorically we'll never see the original cast again.
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They came back through using the radio tower
 
I must have missed this due to half paying attention as the cringe factor was extraordinarily strong in this season.
Who was the chap in the mine?
Why was the young Henry Creel down there in the first place?
Presumably this entire nonsense started with Henry grabbing the rock? Where did the rock come from?
 
darkgen said:
I must have missed this due to half paying attention as the cringe factor was extraordinarily strong in this season.
Who was the chap in the mine?
Why was the young Henry Creel down there in the first place?
Presumably this entire nonsense started with Henry grabbing the rock? Where did the rock come from?
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Prequel spin off. Came from a memory and that's all we know
 
Just got round to finishing the final couple of episodes over the weekend.

My initial thoughts are the final episode wasn't great, maybe it was to be expected because of how big the show is and the expectation that comes. It was ok, nothing more.

I do not agree at all about the ending with Eleven, for me Stranger things is a feel good, nostalgia driven story, it's meant to have a happy ending. It's like if they killed off Frodo in Return of the King or something. Can't get on board with that ending at all, even if they did try to hedge it with the "but maybe she's not dead" idea. Nah...annoying ending.
 
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darkgen said:
I must have missed this due to half paying attention as the cringe factor was extraordinarily strong in this season.
Who was the chap in the mine?
Why was the young Henry Creel down there in the first place?
Presumably this entire nonsense started with Henry grabbing the rock? Where did the rock come from?
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I think this is explored in the play version of stranger things.

For the play, I think I read on reddit that the man in the cave is a scientist or similar who stole some of the mind flayer dust / material from the Russians and whilst on the run had fallen down the mine ( or something like that ) for Henry come across.

I think that's where the big Russian aspect comes from in the series. I also read that either in the series or the play, there is a mention of a missing scientist in the news / newpaper article ( or similar ).

I didn't pay attention close enough in the series so googled it a while back
 
Trusty said:
I do not agree at all about the ending with Eleven, for me Stranger things is a feel good, nostalgia driven story, it's meant to have a happy ending. It's like if they killed off Frodo in Return of the King or something. Can't get on board with that ending at all, even if they did try to hedge it with the "but maybe she's not dead" idea. Nah...annoying ending
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I've realised just now exactly what it feels like and I'm curious if others agree.

It feels exactly like Jon snows ending and sending him back to the wall. Like after all he went through, that was it, back to the wall. Same with eleven. After all she's been through, she gets a mysterious ending that isn't happy in that even if alive she's not with her family
 
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