Streaming issues

Both options are good, but to be honest, although the 9700k will give marginally better performance in straight game play, I'd go for the 3700X for a number of reasons:

1) The 3700X is a 16 thread CPU (two threads per core) with 36MB cache, where as the 9700K is only an 8 thread CPU (one thread per core) with 12MB cache. What that means is, if you have a game that utilises 8 or more threads, and your son wants to live stream it, it may work better on the 3700X than the 9700K since less time will be lost due to context switching. Plus as games use more threads, the 9700K is perhaps only going to lose ground against the 3700X.
2) By going to an X570 MB, you will have compatibility with Zen 3 processors (Ryzen 4000) that should be out by the end of the year.

As a final comment, the B550 motherboard is expected to be out in about a month (it will be cheaper than X570 with a smaller feature set) and Ryzen 4000 is rumoured to be a few months later (or at least by the end of the year) and is also expected to have significant performance improvements to the current generation Ryzen 3000 CPU's. If your son can wait a few months, it might be worth waiting for the later generation CPU's. That said if he can't wait, then that's perfectly understandable - the current gen CPU's are pretty good.
 
This wasn't mentioned but have you tried setting up nvenc with the 1070 in OBS? Nvenc is a part of the GPU that is essentially a hardware based encoder made for streaming and has 0 impact on framerate.
 
I am looking at investing in a total different pc for my son now, then recouping a little money back through the sale of the old gaming pc. Out of curiosity what price would you put on the gaming pc I'm looking at selling, I'm none expert in this but what price could I be looking at specs below

CP-585-IN Intel Core i5-6600 3.30GHz (Skylake) Socket LGA1151 Processor -
SW-172-MS Microsoft Windows 10 64-Bit DVD - OEM (MS-KW9-00139)
Samsung 250GB 750 EVO SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps Solid State Drive
ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1070 AMP Edition 8192MB GDDR5PCI-Express Graphics Card
Asus H110-Plus Intel H110 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard
Kolink KL-500 500W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply
Seagate 1TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache HDD - OEM
Team Group Elite 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-19200C16 2400MHzDual Channel Kit - Black (TPKD416GM2400HC16DC01), (8gb ram has been replace with Corsair 8gb Ram)
Kolink Punisher Midi Tower Gaming Case - Black
Asus PCE-N15 300Mbps 802.11B/G/N Wireless PCI-E Network Adapter
Asus 24x DVD±RW DRW-24D5MT SATA ReWriter - Black (OEM)
 
Right, decided to keep the pc and upgrade. I have around £500-£600 budget for the upgrades. I have already loaded the specs of the gaming pc that my son already has, I want to stay with and go the intel route. Like I have explained before, my son wants to stream, game and run discord at the same time. What do you guys recommend to carry all this out at the same time. I want to stay relevant with all up coming games also, plus install an elgato card within the pc also furthet down the line. What would you guys recommend?
 
Do you want to keep that crappy psu (firebomb)?
You should get a larger ssd to put games on as you want them on the fastest drive.

Are you set in intel ?

Just clarify you want

Motherboard, cpu, memory anything else?
 
I dont know what I really need too upgrade. I know the graphics card is half decent so I can keep that as for the other internals I havent a clue really. Like discribed before I am not up on computers so dont have the foggist, just know I need a little help and to get some peace from my son .
 
hemingway1975 said:
Right, decided to keep the pc and upgrade. I have around £500-£600 budget for the upgrades. I have already loaded the specs of the gaming pc that my son already has, I want to stay with and go the intel route. Like I have explained before, my son wants to stream, game and run discord at the same time. What do you guys recommend to carry all this out at the same time. I want to stay relevant with all up coming games also, plus install an elgato card within the pc also furthet down the line. What would you guys recommend?
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So the first question is, why do you want to stay with Intel given that the new Zen 3 AMD Ryzen 5000 CPU's have better performance than the Intel CPU's for both gaming and productivity? To answer your question, no AMD don't overheat all the time. I have a 3950X and don't have any overheating issues, my CPU under load (all 16 cores / 32 threads) is low 60's. Also, as mickyflin has highlighted, it would be a good idea to consider changing the PSU (to answer your other question, yes PSU means power supply unit).
 
Why do you want to stay with Intel? there isn't really any upgrade path from the PC that your son has. If you want to spend that money I would just go for this;

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £615.42 (includes shipping: £10.50)
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If you want to wait, black friday deals may get the RAM a little cheaper but entirely up to you.
 
Excellent, thanks everybody for the help. Now next question. I did say the graphics card is o.k but my sons says it will struggle with the new cold war call of duty. Do you think this should be upgraded also, i have back up off £250 - £300 if I have use this..
 
hemingway1975 said:
Excellent, thanks everybody for the help. Now next question. I did say the graphics card is o.k but my sons says it will struggle with the new cold war call of duty. Do you think this should be upgraded also, i have back up off £250 - £300 if I have use this..
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250-300 could get you a good deal on an upgrade, 2060 or so but there is not loads in it.
See if anything great pops up on black friday or if not could always make a move for a 1080ti, you can pick them up second hand for good prices these days.
 
Been looking at graphics cards but might as well look a blank screen, I have no clue what im looking at or understand. Whats difference between the 2060 and 1080ti, I can look at 2060 but their is like 3 or 4 differences. Tboughy 2060 was newer than 1080ti.
 
Check out some reviews, plenty of benchmarking sites around that can show you the difference. Especially good as you can see exactly the differences in the games you play.

AMD graphics cards are very good, the 5700xt would be a good upgrade over the 1070 definitely but its not in the 250-300 price range.
 
See how the Nvidia 1070 copes first, if you do need to update, just get the best graphics card you can for the money at that point. Graphics card prices seem quite high at this point in time - next few months more mid-tier graphics cards for this latest generation should hopefully come out and offer more performance for the money.
 
So does the ryzen 5600x out weight all the intel i7 for streaming and game play at the same time. I need to make sure these upgrades will handle cold war(cod) playing and streaming together.
 
hemingway1975 said:
So does the ryzen 5600x out weight all the intel i7 for streaming and game play at the same time. I need to make sure these upgrades will handle cold war(cod) playing and streaming together.
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Yes the 5600X should have no issues with that.

For best results, when streaming, you should lock your game FPS to the frame rate that you are streaming (or a multiple of it), else you can end up with a jittery stream output.

To help answer your concerns and also supply advice for a good configuration when streaming, take a look at this video from Jayztwocents: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYOWEyyDcb8
 
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