Street Fighter (SFIV, SSFIV, HDR)

robgmun · 31 Jan 2016 at 22:10

elrasho said:
Got a refund on STEAM and bought it on CDKeys... I feel dirty

If you have a TE2 Stick it currently doesn't work with SF5, it's the reason i got a refund from steam and getting the PS4 version, sad because i wanted the PC version so i have have better visuals, although this generation the gap is smaller.

elrasho · 31 Jan 2016 at 22:13

Mines a 1st gen TE stick, I like to keep it old school

Zatoichi.uK · 31 Jan 2016 at 23:00

Do all ps3 sticks work with sfv on ps4? I have a qanba q4raf I'd like to use if possible.

R088ieS86 · 31 Jan 2016 at 23:20

Zatoichi.uK said:
Do all ps3 sticks work with sfv on ps4? I have a qanba q4raf I'd like to use if possible.

They don't work on the beta and my guess will be that they never will, because there would be no incentive to spend a small fortune on Madcatz range of shiny new sticks.

There are converters though.

Kreeeee · 1 Feb 2016 at 09:29

elrasho said:
Kens tatsu.... cant punish it with anything on block!? Also Rishid DP hasn't got 0 startup so he really doesn't have a wake up game.

Also when they activate V Trigger and they move with "no frames" its just so annoying

DP's aren't meant to be a wake up option any more as people just turned their brains off and mashed in SFIV. Just block on wake up.

V Trigger activation is great on ambiguous cross ups as it lets you pause and then super in the right direction

Zatoichi.uK said:
Do all ps3 sticks work with sfv on ps4? I have a qanba q4raf I'd like to use if possible.

Capcom have said in the full game PS3 sticks will be supported, but there's no guarantee.

robgmun said:
If you have a TE2 Stick it currently doesn't work with SF5, it's the reason i got a refund from steam and getting the PS4 version, sad because i wanted the PC version so i have have better visuals, although this generation the gap is smaller.

All PC compatible sticks work with the PC version. Use Xpadder.

Zatoichi.uK · 1 Feb 2016 at 09:42

Cool ta Kreeee. Fingers crossed then.

SDK^ · 1 Feb 2016 at 11:55

When SF4 was released in Feb 2009 I bought a TE stick but I couldn't get used to pulling off combos with it so I went back to the standard control pad, which worked much better as it's less effort to play

Kreeeee · 1 Feb 2016 at 11:58

SFV will be even easier on a pad as:

- The combos are far less strict
- Special moves are easier to do
- HP+HK replaces the old Ultra qcf qcf +3p/k input
- They are trying to avoid charge characters

R088ieS86 · 1 Feb 2016 at 12:39

Kreeeee said:
- They are trying to avoid charge characters

Non charge Guile... he is going to be sickening

elrasho · 1 Feb 2016 at 12:44

From Evenhubs comments section:

'Guys the days of truly hype combos are dead. It's okay, accept it. SF5 has a lot of other things going for it and I really like the game, but the combos are pretty lackluster. The fact that desk is going for full screen fireball dash combos pre-release to do something interesting is a pretty good indicator of that.

We are sacrficing combos for accessibility, but we are gaining a bunch of other good things that SF4 didn't have such as a faster game pace, extreme punishment for reversals, lack of fadc safety nets in general, etc. No game is perfect, and I accept that SF5 is sacrificing some depth/hype in the combo department but that the game is still good enough overall to make it competitively interesting.'

Couldn't have put it better myself

Kreeeee · 1 Feb 2016 at 13:15

R088ieS86 said:
Non charge Guile... he is going to be sickening

He will have a charge move, but will have some motion moves too, just like the changes to M.Bison and Vega. The good news is that non-charge moves get nerfed hugely because of how much easier it is to have one loaded in the barrel and ready to go. In summary, a motion Guile will have far worse fireballs and flash kicks than a charge one

elrasho said:
From Evenhubs comments section:

'Guys the days of truly hype combos are dead. It's okay, accept it. SF5 has a lot of other things going for it and I really like the game, but the combos are pretty lackluster. The fact that desk is going for full screen fireball dash combos pre-release to do something interesting is a pretty good indicator of that.

We are sacrficing combos for accessibility, but we are gaining a bunch of other good things that SF4 didn't have such as a faster game pace, extreme punishment for reversals, lack of fadc safety nets in general, etc. No game is perfect, and I accept that SF5 is sacrificing some depth/hype in the combo department but that the game is still good enough overall to make it competitively interesting.'

Couldn't have put it better myself

You should try some of Rashid's insane juggle combos using his V trigger! The combos are more positionally difficult rather than technical now, a bit like in MvC3.

R088ieS86 · 1 Feb 2016 at 13:16

The game itself isn't fun to watch. Watching footsies is like watching a Sagat or Guile mirror match, if you don't see the art in it. I don't think we will see many crowds going wild at evo this year!

robgmun · 1 Feb 2016 at 13:52

Kreeeee said:
All PC compatible sticks work with the PC version. Use Xpadder.

My experience tells me otherwise

Kreeeee · 1 Feb 2016 at 23:02

robgmun said:
My experience tells me otherwise

If your pc supports the stick then there is no way xpadder won't work.

You must have set it up wrong

Kreeeee · 2 Feb 2016 at 00:00

R088ieS86 said:
The game itself isn't fun to watch. Watching footsies is like watching a Sagat or Guile mirror match, if you don't see the art in it. I don't think we will see many crowds going wild at evo this year!

No one knows how to play it yet. Sf4 wad the same dull turtle/zone fest for a while.

R088ieS86 · 2 Feb 2016 at 12:21

I think the issue is that the driver for the TE2 doesn't work on Windows 10.
Madcatz have dropped the "PC Compatible" line from the advertising as well, all sticks are console only.

megalomanic · 2 Feb 2016 at 19:18

My 360 TE (1) did not work on PC(Win10) initially so I was using joy2key. On Sunday though it started working, no idea how. Joy2Key was suddenly not transferring inputs correctly, and I realized it was due to conflicting with XInput.

I had great fun playing the BETA over the weekend though, will be there day 1 to farm points/monies from noobs

(becuase I'm a noob too

)

Kreeeee · 2 Feb 2016 at 21:49

Looking forward to annoying people with fang.

I just hope his zoning game is decent as fireballs are so bad in this game. Every character can destroy Ryu or Nash's fireball game with ease from very far away.

robgmun · 2 Feb 2016 at 22:02

R088ieS86 said:
I think the issue is that the driver for the TE2 doesn't work on Windows 10.
Madcatz have dropped the "PC Compatible" line from the advertising as well, all sticks are console only.

Been doing some research on this and someone answered me

SFV Beta on PC only accepts Xinput devices, that's why the TE2 works on USFIV and not SFVB.

I don't know why Capcom made the beta xinput only, but I'm willing to bet money that the retail release will support direct input. If not immediately, then shortly thereafter- it would be supremely asinine to lock out buyers of licensed sfv sticks, and almost unprecedented for a modern pc fighting game to be xinput only.

So i'll be keeping an eye out for what happens

vian_siu · 10 Feb 2016 at 22:06

Kreeeee said:
Looking forward to annoying people with fang.

I just hope his zoning game is decent as fireballs are so bad in this game. Every character can destroy Ryu or Nash's fireball game with ease from very far away.

i see that you are still sticking to charge characters. i probably going to try one of mika or laura. i want someone that hit hard and can go in and out quickly