Strike! Strike!

Good luck to you.

As for the idiot who thinks we should not have a steel industry, do you actually understand how manufacturing works. It employs far more better paid/better skilled and happy workers and the trickle down to off shoots and supplying industries is amazing.

But its Ok, Keep the call centers coming where all there is folks in cubicles and small trickle down of IT support or the Banks with smaller trickle down and some IT support.

Britain needs manufacturing on this scale big time and well done to the contracts that stipulate UK steel.
 
I'm a little unclear as to how exactly strike action is going to magic up the 1,000,000,000 GBP+ pension fund deficit....?

Sums do no add up. Where is this money going to come from? Especially considering the European operation is bleeding away billions every year.
 
FishFluff said:
I'm in favour of changing schemes like that for new members, but it's pretty unfair to change the pensions of people who've been paying in for years. What if at some point in your career you could have moved jobs to have better pay now but a worse pension in the future and didn't do it? You'd be absolutely livid.
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I've not seen the details of the changes to the pension scheme but it would be highly unlikely that these changes apply to the whole pension, only future accrual.

For example if you are 50 and have 30 years in the pension scheme, you now have to work until 65. But you would have 30 years with an NRD of 60 and only the service from now to 65 would be reduced.

The longer you have accrued in the pension scheme the less of an impact it will have on your pension.

And anyone young with only a few years service who actually, seriously expected to be able to retire at 60 'u iz totes cray cray'.

The vast majority of companies did this 10-15 years ago, to be honest everyone who works for Tata should be thanking their bosses for keeping such an expensive and completely impractical pension scheme going for as long as they did.
 
SPG said:
Good luck to you.

As for the idiot who thinks we should not have a steel industry, do you actually understand how manufacturing works. It employs far more better paid/better skilled and happy workers and the trickle down to off shoots and supplying industries is amazing.

But its Ok, Keep the call centers coming where all there is folks in cubicles and small trickle down of IT support or the Banks with smaller trickle down and some IT support.

Britain needs manufacturing on this scale big time and well done to the contracts that stipulate UK steel.
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You know our manufacturing output is more than it used to be right? We don't have much heavy industry now but we have graduated on to higher skilled, higher profit high tech manufacturing (such as computer parts, aircraft, missiles and next gen materials), let alone all the mid level manufacturing, like cars.

Manufacturing isn't just heavy industry any more.
 
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SPG said:
Good luck to you.

As for the idiot who thinks we should not have a steel industry, do you actually understand how manufacturing works. It employs far more better paid/better skilled and happy workers and the trickle down to off shoots and supplying industries is amazing.

But its Ok, Keep the call centers coming where all there is folks in cubicles and small trickle down of IT support or the Banks with smaller trickle down and some IT support.

Britain needs manufacturing on this scale big time and well done to the contracts that stipulate UK steel.
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In addition increasing mechanisation and automation is bringing the manpower costs of process industries down. If the UK had strategy of low energy costs many of these jobs would be being onshored as has happened in the US since the shale revolution.

I feel for the OP but sadly the era of final salary pensions is dead and I doubt striking will do anything to prevent that.
 
Raggs said:
I can just recall the hadfield steel strike of 1980 in Sheffield 2700 men worked there, sadly now the plant has gone long ago. to replaced by a shopping center :(

article here old Arthur scargill was among the 1500 pickets a prequel to the miners strike ?

http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/nostalgia/retro-sheffield-at-centre-of-national-steel-strike-1-7200989
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Scargill, almost single handedly, destroyed the deep coal mining industry in the UK!

Like most good socialists, he still managed to line his own nest while the people who he was supposed to represent had their lives turned to ****! :mad:
 
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