Striker II Formula

BSOD AGAIN!! why oh why!

OK, so everything had been working nicely, got my NICs back up and running, cpu now running like it should, and memory also; then, bam. BSOD!

Page Fault in non paged area!:mad::mad::mad:

ARh.....

Any reasons why I might be getting this??:confused:

Cheers,
Matt
 
Memory on limit at current settings or/and volts.

@ at a guess I would set your Memory to 2.2v at least and possibly need 2.25V as 2x2GB Modules and NB may be under more stress so need more Voltage.

I have more success overclocking my Corsair XMS DHX PC6400 to 1000mhz then underclocking my Corsair Dominator DHX PC8500 at 1000mhz, infact it totally messes up my Bios and I have major messing about to recover back to usablable state after swapping back to the PC6400.
 
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helmutcheese said:
They are all crap, XFX aint even a good brand and that loud fan on the ref design is a joke, at least with EVGA you will get good support.

XFX and EVGA have not done anything to the Mobo, its Nvidia's Mobo with them selling it with their name on it.
IMO the MSI is the best so far.

I have has Asus NF 2/3/4/5's for myself and customers builds, and only the Crosshair (NF5 but pushed far too far) and the NF6/7 are bad, and thats mostly down to Nvidia not Asus.

The 780i looks like a DoDo, if the 790 is the same Nvidia dont deserve to be in the Mobo Chipset market.
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The fact that they work is a huge improvement over Asus/nforce boards which dont. I can only comment on my experiences and what i want my mobo to do which is overclock my cpu and run TriSLI which it does perfectly. Bearing in mind it does everything i want it to how can you described it as crap ?
 
Overall all NF6/7's are CRAP, I aint gonna argue it again, its all over review sites and forums.

What you are happy with and what others are happy with are 2 different things.

The Nvidia Chipsets recently are CRAP esp for Intel.

What exactly do you class as highly overclocked ?, I mean FSB not CPU mhz.

I can point to Multiple threads about nay Vendors NF6/7's and issues, inc XFX, some like yourself get lucky or do not have high expectations.
 
Im not looking for fast fsb's though as my cpu can handle up to an 11x multi which is more than enough for water cooled.

If you want to run massive fsb speeds and exotic cooling then i agree completely that the 780i's are not for you, if you want a gaming rig to run TriSLI which is what 780's are for then the XFX/EVGA will do that.
 
Not many peeps will even run 2x GPU's nevermind 3x, and I got major Game FPS drops and 3Dmark drops probably due to that stupid PCI-E Bridge Chip.

Best of luck running 3 cards and getting no issues.

Reagrdless of FSB they all run hot and have same bios bugs etc etc, I have owned them all so entitled to say this and again can be backed up by Multiple results on forums form other users.

This may be my last go at Nvidia chipsets, unless they can make a special 790.

I do not buy Nvidia Mobos cause of SLI, its only since NF4 there was SLI anyhow.
 
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I believe 99% of the problems regarding Nforce boards of late are entirely memory related, anything above 2gbs and/or 1066 FSB and major nit picking is required

Take a look at how cautious Asus's QVL is for the Striker 2.

They only quote 4 vendors in the 1066mhz category and only one of those can be installed as a pair, the rest are only verified to work if single modules are fitted.

Who on earth installs just ONE STICK OF MEMORY in a £200+ motherboard??

For those who are having issues with the QX9650 and are running 4gb of high performance memory, try upping the north-bridge voltage.

First set it manually to 1.26 (this alone will likely cure the intermittent booting problem), if still unstable, try 1.28, then 1.30 and so on upto a maximum of 1.4 if absolutely necessary.

Also, try manually setting the Vcore to 1.268 or a little higher if overclocking.

Helmut has already covered the NIC problem.

I personally found that the NIC will not function after resuming from S3 and to get it going again, you can either use the CMOS button, or flick the PSUs switch off for about 5-10 secs and then on again. I'd imagine this will be fixed with a future BIOS...famous last words!!!
 
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Ranger07 said:
I can only comment on my experiences and what i want my mobo to do which is overclock my cpu and run TriSLI which it does perfectly. Bearing in mind it does everything i want it to how can you described it as crap ?
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Again, only 2gb=far fewer problems it would seem, try 4x1gb or 2x2gb sticks and see if things suddenly go rubbish.....;)

I'm pretty certain you were unlucky with your first Asus board. I too have little doubt all these bugs are chipset related and not specific to any particular manufacturer. If forced to use an Nforce board, I'd still favor Asus over the rest.
 
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NIC failed again. zzzzzz

balth_dire said:
I personally found that the NIC will not function after resuming from S3 and to get it going again, you can either use the CMOS button, or flick the PSUs switch off for about 5-10 secs and then on again. I'd imagine this will be fixed with a future BIOS...famous last words!!!
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After my PC was off for about 4 hours, I turned it back on to find that the blinking NIC has failed again! This CMOS clearing is frankly getting on my nerves. No wonder why they bothered to put this button as part of the I/O part! :rolleyes:

This NIC problem seems to be related to the bios revision 0902. Wasn't getting anything like this with 0801.

To try and cure my BSOD, i will up my memory voltage to 2.2V. I believe my northbridge is currently set at 1.36V, but will alter to one of the advised voltages, like 1.30. I have noticed that the chip is getting rather hot, prob due to the high voltage!

Matt
 
The NIC issue and all other issues are still on Beta Bios 1001 and I bet they were there from day 1, just it had not reared it head for you yet.

The Mobo should never had hit retail in this state, both Nvidia and Asus need a kick to the head.
 
Does anyone think that these problems are experienced by every Striker II Formula owner? cos the reviews shown on the Overclockers site decsribe people loving it!

Also regarding this NIC problem. It's really really really starting to drive me crazy! Is this a problem that should be escalated to Asus Tech Support, or indeed warranting an RMA??

Matt
 
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Also regarding this NIC problem. It's really really really starting to drive me crazy! Is this a problem that should be escalated to Asus Tech Support, or indeed warranting an RMA??

Matt
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And I believe you're correct in concluding it relates to the latest BIOS. I just tried 801 (the originally shipped one) and was able to resume from S3 with the NIC still active thereafter multiple times.

As stated earlier, I've also had to revert to very basic settings on the memory to improve overall stability.

Could you possibly type your full spec - including the VCore/Northbridge and memory coltages you're currently using?

Also, the NIC thing aside, have any of your other problems (BSODs/general instabilities) been resolved as a result of anything you've altered?
 
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Could you possibly type your full spec - including the VCore/Northbridge and memory coltages you're currently using?
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Asus Striker II Formula @ 0902 revision - NB: 1.30V - SB: 1.50V (Auto)
Intel QX9650 @ 3.0GHz @ 1.22V (Auto)
2 x 2GB OCZ PC2-8000 ReaperX @ 1000MHz @ 5-5-5-18 @ 2.1V
1 x BFG 8800GTS 640MB (ForceWare 169.25) @ stock
1 x WD Raptor 150GB
Creative X-Fi Fatal1ty
Enermax Galaxy 1000W

Last night I was watching a film using VLC and then the image suddenly had all these orange thin lines from top to bottom across the entire screen. Coming out of full screen, they continues within the VLC window, put there were about 5 of these orange lines wherever I pointed my mouse. Then BSOD 124.

Have a look at this forum relating to this BSOD, they seem to think it is the combination of Vista, 8800 and a Creative card. http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1451968&SiteID=17

I have a different sound card that I can use, which is the one that comes with the mobo (Supreme FX II 0 lets hope it is), so am using this now to see how the BSODs go. If it doesn't solve the problem, then I am going to slap in an old 6800GT that I have lying around.

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Since changing my NB voltage from 1.36V to 1.30V I haven't, (touch wood), seen the BSOD 50 (page fault in non paged area).

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A note about the differences seen by using the 0902 release:
SiSoft Sandra:
0801:
- Processor Arithmetic:
- Dhrystone ALU: 34371 MIPS
- Whetstone FPU: 29588 MFlops
-3DMarks- 9959

0902:
- Processor Arithmetic:
- Dhrystone ALU: 49720 MIPS
- Whetstone FPU: 42186 MFlops
-3DMarks
- 10152
 
Thanks for all that info!

The only BSODs I've seen have been "IRQL not less equal", they were always occurring - after varying periods of running RTHDRIBL and Prime95 25.5 simultaneously.

I once ran prime for 2 1/2 hours without a problem before starting RTHDRIBL, whereupon prime crashed within seconds (that was with BIOS 801).

801 and 901 seem next to useless if running 4 sticks of RAM no matter what the timings are set to, I'd imagine it was the same for you with 2x2gb.

Anandtech used 8gbs of the slower 6400 Ocz Reaper modules and evidently had to fiddle a fair bit to get things stable.

http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=373

I remain convinced this is nearly ALL memory related, not drivers and certainly not heat - at least in my experience.
 
Just found this info on another forum:

"Striker and striker 2 Formula are ONLY good with QX cpu's as the multi is unlocked and you can get close to where you need running a higher multi, if you are looking for FSB overclocking get a dual core although how much over 500 780i will do i have no idea.

The rules with 4GB 2x2 with a quad.

tRFC, you have to tune this, big impact on vdimm and stability
FSB has to stay to the sweet spots, 9 multi has issues for some reason also.

For me 8x1333, 8x1600, 8x1667 all worked well with async and 4GB at 1000, 5-5-5-18 tRFC 54 and 1.85V vdimm. At these FSB's the board sets exactly 1000 for the memory and weirdly this seems to have an effect.

Im still testing, but end users who we helped over at OCZ who followed these rules have had no issues, so there is something to them."


Might be useful;):rolleyes:.
 
Nearly everyone reports their Striker II's run far too hot for whatever speed there on, that inc's Defaults.

The Heatpipes are either not contacting fully or just not good enough (which I have partually fixed by refitting with Artic Ceramic as Asus told me), this fixed my 3DMARK06 score coming in at 7000-13000, but I normally score 14500 in Vista and hit 15100 the 1st time I ran this mobo.

I blame the PCI-E Bridge Chip and have no way to know its temperature and its hidden behing my GPU so not getting much air.

I could write a list of faults if I had the time and energy and I could also post links to at least 1 (but actually multiple) peeps with the same problems.

Right now Im logging out to remove this POS from my case and go back to my older buggy but working Striker Extreme with its 1 dead NIC and all other common bugs from new.

At least I can game on it without FPS drops and stuttering.

I may write up the list of faults later but you know this place, some smart*** will claim there is nothing wrong with the Mobo etc etc.

Im really happy for anyone who got a good one but either they got very lucky or dont run it hard enough, all I can say it there is plenty of both Asus 780i's getting RMA'd, but Im told the 2nd batch of the P5N-T Deluxe's are a lot better.

I would guess they are Rev 1.02 for the newer CPU support that the original Rev cant support, but the Striker II is Rev 1.03.
 
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@ balth_dire, I read that also and would take it with a pinch of salt.

Im running a Dual, thats an E6850 on my Striker Extreme and a E8500 on this Striker II.

The 680 and 780 are not a great choice for Quads.

He also mentions OCZ, well that shows he dont know that much cause there is a known issue with the Striker Extreme and I "guess" the Striker II in that OCZ "Claim" Asus and EVGA, but mainly Asus mess with setting in the Bios that make their Memory act up on their Mobo's.

There is a stiicky on the OCZ forums and they even offer a older Modded Bios to get their Memory working on the Striker Extreme.

I think its BS and would not touch the Modded bios as other Memory works so I blame OCZ and actually did try Reaper in mines (2x2GB+Striker Extreme) and had nothing but hastle.
 
Well, it doesn't apply to me as I'm not running OCZ memory, though that is not the only site on which I've read that altering the TRFC, TRC and multiplier can make a difference and their's is not the only memory about which I've read it. I agree about the modded BIOS but Skippo might want to test at least some of the settings if his problems continue.

As for heat, if anything, I've had more BSODs with the side open and fans pointed directly at the supposed "hot spots", so it's becoming extremely confusing.

For the record, I had an B3 qx6800 in this board before fitting the qx9650 and I don't recall any such instability, even with Crysis in full swing, 3x 8800s and GPU temps of anywhere upto 95 degrees! Maybe there is something amiss in the relationship between the x9 multiplier and memory (if running more than 2gbs).

I'll run 3dmark again and see if I get any stuttering.

Did you find that the stuttering was directly connected to heat ie. when you took the side off the case and/or added cooling, the problem lessened or went away?
 
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