Struggling to hire/retain staff

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Anyone else finding their work is struggling to hire or retain staff. Where is everyone going?

I think it's causing a knock on effect because if people are leaving and then you're left to pick up your ex-colleague's workload until they can hire someone, it's going to cause additional stress.

Anyone else experiencing this?

Edit: Forgot to say I work in healthcare
 
Disloyalty bonus. You get more money pay rise wise by moving jobs.

Most companies don't give pay increases based on the skill value in the market either so lose out to other companies willing to pay for the in demand skill at a premium rate.

Also there's huge attrition at companies that have forced people back in to offices as well.

I work in recruitment so see this and hear the reasons first hand ( at least in the tech sector)
 
Yep. I work in a finance based role contracted to 40 hours a week where they're looking for people with AAT qualifications and finance experience, yet they're offering 40p an hour above the minimum wage. People are leaving all over the place and we've had 1 CV put forward in the last 3 weeks. The rest of us are under incredible pressure and we're expected to deal with the extra workload when we're hugely pressed for time as it is.

I can't think why nobody wants the job.. we've been told that there's 'no budget' for a pay rise yet they'll happily pay the sales guys 3 times what we're on :)

I pointed out that the local McDonald's is offering £1 an hour more and was told I shouldn't compare wages to them. Perhaps not, but if I compared it to similar jobs in our sector, you'd look even worse!
 
el_dazza said:
Yep. I work in a finance based role contracted to 40 hours a week where they're looking for people with AAT qualifications and finance experience, yet they're offering 40p an hour above the minimum wage. People are leaving all over the place and we've had 1 CV put forward in the last 3 weeks. The rest of us are under incredible pressure and we're expected to deal with the extra workload when we're hugely pressed for time as it is.

I can't think why nobody wants the job.. we've been told that there's 'no budget' for a pay rise yet they'll happily pay the sales guys 3 times what we're on :)

I pointed out that the local McDonald's is offering £1 an hour more and was told I shouldn't compare wages to them. Perhaps not, but if I compared it to similar jobs in our sector, you'd look even worse!
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That's mental.
 
I'm struggling to get hired, despite being very qualified, didn't have this problem last year.
From the perspective of the company I just left, they struggled to retain me, but if you treat people badly what do u expect.
 
el_dazza said:
Yep. I work in a finance based role contracted to 40 hours a week where they're looking for people with AAT qualifications and finance experience, yet they're offering 40p an hour above the minimum wage. People are leaving all over the place and we've had 1 CV put forward in the last 3 weeks. The rest of us are under incredible pressure and we're expected to deal with the extra workload when we're hugely pressed for time as it is.

I can't think why nobody wants the job.. we've been told that there's 'no budget' for a pay rise yet they'll happily pay the sales guys 3 times what we're on :)

I pointed out that the local McDonald's is offering £1 an hour more and was told I shouldn't compare wages to them. Perhaps not, but if I compared it to similar jobs in our sector, you'd look even worse!
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You need to get out of that situation. This is very typical of companies these days. I happened to me over a few years and I ended up going elsewhere.
 
The WFH topic is an interesting one, we've put no formal plan in place in regard to expectations of colleagues to be in the office but it's definitely on the cards because there quite simply isn't a culture at the moment.

Some fellow managers are saying people will leave if we set expectation for colleagues to return to the office, even if it's a hybrid setup. Whilst I appreciate circumstances are different for everyone, and I'm very close to our office and don't have kids, I couldn't stand working in complete isolation.
 
el_dazza said:
Yep. I work in a finance based role contracted to 40 hours a week where they're looking for people with AAT qualifications and finance experience, yet they're offering 40p an hour above the minimum wage. People are leaving all over the place and we've had 1 CV put forward in the last 3 weeks. The rest of us are under incredible pressure and we're expected to deal with the extra workload when we're hugely pressed for time as it is.

I can't think why nobody wants the job.. we've been told that there's 'no budget' for a pay rise yet they'll happily pay the sales guys 3 times what we're on :)

I pointed out that the local McDonald's is offering £1 an hour more and was told I shouldn't compare wages to them. Perhaps not, but if I compared it to similar jobs in our sector, you'd look even worse!
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That's ridiculous, you shouldn't compare wages! Of course you should! Had the samething with the company I left after being there for about 2 years. Told me a similar thing, companies acting like its money that doesn't pay the bills and put food on the table :rolleyes:

Found out they are struggling to find my replacement in that job and upped the yearly salary 53K above they was paying me
:eek:
Would have been cheaper to keep me if they matched what I wanted and gave me more Azure exposure.

throwaway4372 said:
I'm struggling to get hired, despite being very qualified, didn't have this problem last year.
From the perspective of the company I just left, they struggled to retain me, but if you treat people badly what do u expect.
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What sector did you work in?
 
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malachi said:
That's ridiculous, you shouldn't compare wages! Of course you should! Had the samething with the company I left after being there for about 2 years. Told me a similar thing, companies acting like its money that doesn't pay the bills and put food on the table :rolleyes:
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Joke isn't it. They also said they were 'proud to have increased new starter wages by 5% over the last 2 years'.. well done. I started in November and they increased my salary after a month, giving it the excuse that they were doing my team a favour but the truth is if they didn't increase our salaries, we'd actually be below minimum wage right now. I won't be around long I don't think, which is a shame because my team are all lovely people but they don't help themselves. Almost all of them work through their lunch and work overtime (for standard rate I might add - they asked me if I wanted to work o/t this week because of the bank holidays and I laughed at them when they offered.no premium)

I flat out refuse to work over my 40 hours unless it's for a premium. Come to think of it, they're all probably doing 45 hours because of not taking a lunch break which I think pushes them very close to the minimum wage, if not below.
 
The IT sector is really having challenges with retention. There has been a lot of VC money funding lots of 'name your price' recruiting of often mediocre talent, added to over promising IPO timelines on totally unrealistic valuations. Never seen it like this, but the boomerangs have started and are gathering pace as people realise that you need more than 'a vision' to make a long term career prospect, not least when you need to deliver or make way for the next dreamer. It's about to crash and crash big and already seeing headcount cut back and a risk adverse approach to recruiting returning.
 
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I'm in IT and I'm looking to leave. Really just waiting for my mortgage application to complete then I'm gone.
It's actually the job not more money why I'm leaving.
Tbh the company doesn't need me. It just doesn't know it.

I feel Fortunate that I've ended up in a niche and growing market

Unfortunately I've found the only way to get better pay is to move jobs. Companies do not increase your salary by as much as moving.


I'll be looking for
-more money even though it isn't the main driver
-WFH is a requirement
-ideally a company I'm interested in


With new jobs offering more cash, and cost of living out of control, and your current job often not even offering inflation increases its hardly surprising
 
el_dazza said:
Yep. I work in a finance based role contracted to 40 hours a week where they're looking for people with AAT qualifications and finance experience, yet they're offering 40p an hour above the minimum wage. People are leaving all over the place and we've had 1 CV put forward in the last 3 weeks. The rest of us are under incredible pressure and we're expected to deal with the extra workload when we're hugely pressed for time as it is.

I can't think why nobody wants the job.. we've been told that there's 'no budget' for a pay rise yet they'll happily pay the sales guys 3 times what we're on :)

I pointed out that the local McDonald's is offering £1 an hour more and was told I shouldn't compare wages to them. Perhaps not, but if I compared it to similar jobs in our sector, you'd look even worse!
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I think this is a big issue with the large increases in minimum wage over the last 2 years, particularly with the adoption of the national living wage. It's really undervalued a lot of the jobs like this.

The jobs which once was maybe 50% above minimum wage haven't increased in line and so now there's a lot of lower level skilled jobs which pay the same as McDonalds/Tesco.
 
Yeah I think as much as anything it's a surprise to candidates, I once worked with a girl who was interested in moving to a role in a 'better' department doing a 'more skilled' job. However it basically paid the same but without any opportunity for overtime. When she found out she was actually a bit argumentative about it, saying "this isn't right if you change jobs you should get a pay rise" which was a bit naive but the point is expectations aren't that aligned. People not in desk jobs assume desk jobs pay more and this problem (small pay delta) will be getting worse with the hike in 'unskilled' pay.
 
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