Struggling to specify a new desktop

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So I haven't used/owned a desktop for around a decade (MBP/Chomebook only), haven't built one for some 14 years. Until then I was building a new one every 18-24 months. Could say I'm a bit out of touch!!

Physically I'm after is a small system, don't need a big tower with a dozen drive bays etc. I'm looking for a small case, room for one drive as well as a PCIe SSD, no need for optical and one mid-level discrete GPU. It needs to be fairly quiet.

Performance wise I want the system to last quite a few years, 5+. This is leading to towards an 8 core Ryzen CPU. I don't feel a need the discrete GPU yet, it's something I'd like to option to add *IF* I ever get into gaming again. I also what the power consumption to be as low as possible. Our eldest is 5 years old, so this is likely to be the 'family' PC for next 5+ yrs.

I'm very happy to buy a pre-built system from someone like Lenovo, HP, Dell etc. But haven't seen anything that's perfect yet.

CPU wise, the recently announced Ryzen 7 4700GE seems to fit the bill. 35W, 3.1-4.3GHz, 8/16HT, 8GPU cores at 2GHz. This looks to be enough of a CPU/GPU and low enough power, but how big an issue is the missing PCIe4.0? Will I be able to add a high spec discrete GPU to this in a year's time? Being an OEM only chip, I'd be limited to boxes like the Lenovo's ThinkCentre M75s - but are their PSUs up for running decent GPUs?

Sure this kind of thing was easier 15 years ago!
 
The non OEM versions of the 4000G line up should be coming soon so you would be able to mix and match rather than being stuck with a pre built.

I don't think PCIe gen 4 is needed at all right now unless you need to move a lot of data around on fast gen 4 NVMEs, for GPUs it will be atleast 5 years before even the top end 1k+ GPUs overcome gen 3.
 
Okay, looks like I can ignore PCIe4.

What are the downsidea buying prebuilt from a big OEM? Prices seem reasonable, tend to have good warranty, presumably high build quality?
 
Okay, looks like I can ignore PCIe4.

What are the downsidea buying prebuilt from a big OEM? Prices seem reasonable, tend to have good warranty, presumably high build quality?

The issue will be as I highlighted last week when you were talking about the U series chips that the OEMs will be using these chips in computers that are not designed to also have discrete video cards.

The entire design will be built around a low power system that won't then be able to support a 200w+ video card (as few people would want that).

Edit to add - also make sure the computer can take a full height PCI card, those Lenovos can't
 
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Okay, looks like I can ignore PCIe4.

What are the downsidea buying prebuilt from a big OEM? Prices seem reasonable, tend to have good warranty, presumably high build quality?
Main downside is normally just lack of upgrade options. Depends how important that is for you however. Can normally squeeze a bit better spec if you build it yourself.
 
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