How do you know if you didnt go? Its the idiots that say "I don't like the taste of that food" when they have never tasted it...then taste it and its their new favoutite food
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How do you know if you didnt go? Its the idiots that say "I don't like the taste of that food" when they have never tasted it...then taste it and its their new favoutite food
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Quite.
I didn't go to uni when I left college and never thought it held me back as a person or career wise. However, I started a degree 18 months ago at age 37, I'm only on year 2 and doors are already opening for me that just weren't available prior to doing a degree.
If you want to imply that someone is an idiot, it's probably a good idea to make sure you're using punctuation properly...
I know because I am in a very well paid job, having never been to university in a field I would have never studied for.
So I certainly do know it's for the better. I would be in debt for no reason.
I'm not rubbishing university, I'm saying it would be useless in my circumstances, and I am happy I didn't bother going because I wouldn't have used anything practical.
I enjoy learning, and I can do that for free. My parter has been to university twice, first to do her degree again a few years later to do a pgce. She has had no use out of her initial degree other than as a means to get her into the PGCE course.
She worked as a teacher for a year and hated it so much that she's now doing nothing related to her degree or PGCE, and she's got about £20,000 in loans to repay...
It depends entirely on the circumstances.
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I don't think he was implying you are an idiot and that his point was a fair statement.
Attacking his grammar followed by defending your life choices when he didn't question them, shows that you took that question pretty personally.
To me his post just asks why you are so confident in your choice. A fair statement
Attacking his grammar followed by defending your life choices when he didn't question them, shows that you took that question pretty personally.
To me his post just asks why you are so confident in your choice. A fair statement
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I went to uni but I do agree with those e.g. Spoffle who didn't go.
As posted before: my dad's generation... graduates were 1-in-20, very sought after. Then Tony Blair's gov't opened the UK up to everyone so that us graduates are 1-in-2. Simply too many of us with relevant jobs for 10% of us ballpark figure.
Maybe of 50% of the degrees weren't just for being at university instead of you know getting genuine qualifications like MSci, MEng, MChem etc, we wouldnt be having this discussion.
I see literally zero value in Business and Humanities, like why even bother...just go flip a burger already without the debt.
I see literally zero value in Business and Humanities, like why even bother...just go flip a burger already without the debt.
I went so I know how much you missed out on. I learnt and experienced so much in those 3 years that you just won't get any where else in life.
It's sort of impossible though. By all means claim that you're doing fine despite not going to university, compare your wage to your peers who did go or whatever. But you can't make the claim that you didn't miss anything if you have no idea what those years would have involved and then insist that you're right.
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Or........
If you're only intending to just flip burgers, then why not go to uni anyway? Study something you love (i.e. art, music etc) and develop personally in those three years - it'll effectively be free as you'll never earn enough to pay the loan back.
And you'll still have the option of a McDegree
I'm earning more than my friends who did go, by a very large margin.
My point I'd that had I went to uni to so what I was thinking about at the time, I wouldn't be earning anywhere near as much as I am...
I know what university life is about for a lot of people. I know I didn't miss out because a lot of that stuff doesn't interest me in the slighted.
I grew up a lot earlier in life than most due to circumstances of some things that happened when I was a child. So I didn't need to go to university to learn about life.
I don't need to defend my decision not to go, as I feel like it was for the better as I've already said. I am genuinely extremely happy I didn't go because it'd have been no value to me at all.
How can you make that call exactly? Some people learn a hell of a lot during their uni days because they were molly coddled as children, so they grew up ignorant and naive to the world.
I know people like this, and they effectively learnt to be adults through the university experience. For me, university would have literally been for the bit of paper at the end. Everyone I know bar one who has gone to university is working in a job that isn't at all relevant to their degree.
I accept and agree that it bears relevance to a lot of people, but that in my circumstances and experience it's just been a means for people to get themselves in to more debt.
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There are jobs and industries that pay well without a degree. Afterall, it is down to you make the opportunities and sucesses happen.
I know a number of self-made well-off people who have successful businesses and where education hasn't been a barrier. Instead hard work, taking the right risks and luck were the deciding factors.
But........and it's a big one.....
In a professional environment which requires professional memberships /charterships /fellowships to progress to a senior level and where they are necessary to gain the client's trust/confidence, a degree in the right discipline, and often a masters is essential.
I have worked in industries that do and don't require degrees to progress. Ultimately, the common denominator is the employee or owners ability. Our financial controller in my last role was there from experience (no degree or pro quals), however our qualified management accountant was 25 years younger and had the same earning potential c45-50k pa but many more career opportunities available with significantly higher salaries. They stayed as convenient for home life balance.
I know a number of self-made well-off people who have successful businesses and where education hasn't been a barrier. Instead hard work, taking the right risks and luck were the deciding factors.
But........and it's a big one.....
In a professional environment which requires professional memberships /charterships /fellowships to progress to a senior level and where they are necessary to gain the client's trust/confidence, a degree in the right discipline, and often a masters is essential.
I have worked in industries that do and don't require degrees to progress. Ultimately, the common denominator is the employee or owners ability. Our financial controller in my last role was there from experience (no degree or pro quals), however our qualified management accountant was 25 years younger and had the same earning potential c45-50k pa but many more career opportunities available with significantly higher salaries. They stayed as convenient for home life balance.
What are you applying for to get a return like that?
When I left my last job I applied for 3, got 3 interviews & got 2 offers, that was in July 2015.