Unfortunate that a foolish decision has impacted his life so harshly, however if some hippy student dropped a fire extinguisher 7 stories in the direction of my Mother/Father/Sister/Brother doing their job, Id want this punishment too.
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What other intention did he have when chucking the extinguisher ~100ft when there's police officers below? I honestly can't think of what else he would have intended to happen other than big heavy extinguisher with *100ft of momentum hits police officer.
If you watch the footage you'll see that he chucked it aiming it to his right towards the police, rather than simply dropping it.
TBH when you take a fire extinguisher and it's not to put out a fire you're a **** already.
* - I know it's 7-storeys high so just guessed that'd be about 100ft. Will of-course bow to superior knowledge
If you watch the footage you'll see that he chucked it aiming it to his right towards the police, rather than simply dropping it.
TBH when you take a fire extinguisher and it's not to put out a fire you're a **** already.
* - I know it's 7-storeys high so just guessed that'd be about 100ft. Will of-course bow to superior knowledge
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Whilst this is true, his actions could have killed more than 1 person. He didn't have any guarantee that this wouldn't be the case but threw it anyway.
A lesson learned and on the plus side, he wont have to worry about his tuition fees for a good while longer.
He ruined his own life. The punishment is deserved.
Whilst this is true, his actions could have killed more than 1 person. He didn't have any guarantee that this wouldn't be the case but threw it anyway.
A lesson learned and on the plus side, he wont have to worry about his tuition fees for a good while longer.
He ruined his own life. The punishment is deserved.
To be honest the fact he'll be raped in prison a few times at least for his actions is more then enough punshment.
I'd still like to know how they got him up in court so fast.
Has the court procedure changed over the years & got uber fast or has a special case been made for this lad ?
Special case I'd imagine to try and sort out the student rioting problems.
Bunch of complete idiots
As a deterrent to others you mean? So what you are saying is that the length of sentence one gets is determined by the political climate? (and/or other factors that have nothing to do with the actual crime)
I agree he should have got a custodial sentence. I dont think the muppet *wilfully* intended to seriously harm anyone but what does he expect would happen chucking a fire extinguisher off the top of a building with masses of people below?
So yeah i agree at the sentence.
However i dont agree how we actually got into to this situation (trebling of tuition fees effected by certain party ie reneging on election promises) and i dont agree with the methods used to try to resolve it (lets attack and take over some buildings whilst sticking the finger to the police yeah that'll work)
Demonstrating against something should be far far more focused, have a clear aim and way to achieve the target. At the moment its a bunch of students all get together and shout at the police and attack buildings hrmm ok.
Still could be worse he could be getting shot at by the police ehh..
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12162096
I see so effectively neither the conservative party or the liberal democrats can be held (obviously not legally haha!) to anything in their manifesto whatsoever. Because they are in a coalition. All bets are off?
So people who voted for them based on X, Y, Z of their respective manifestos must be feeling just a bit cheesed off no?
Waste of voting at all if it has no meaning. If there is no way to meaningfully judge which party to choose then why vote at all?
Surprised there wasnt some blurb by either party that talked about the affect of a coalition government having on their manifestos......
So people who voted for them based on X, Y, Z of their respective manifestos must be feeling just a bit cheesed off no?
Waste of voting at all if it has no meaning. If there is no way to meaningfully judge which party to choose then why vote at all?
Surprised there wasnt some blurb by either party that talked about the affect of a coalition government having on their manifestos......
Either party? You think Labour would have stuck to all of their policies if they had ended up in a coalition?
It amazes me how people seemingly intelligent enough to vote and go to University seem to think it's possible for a party in a coalition to stick to every policy in their manifesto. Have a think about it for a second.
Ha-ha it's not neither of them it will simply be some of Tories and some of LD policies with a few alterations for various reasons.
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Would you like to explain it a bit better then?
You said there is no point voting at all if parties would be changing their policies when in a coalition, it's pretty clear what you meant. I assume the 'whooooosh' in your post was the sound of the penny dropping, from the height of a large building.
Didnt quite catch all of that?
Fixed on phone in pub, what do you think it is a complete new set of policies, it is both parties policies mergedand altered.
Would you like to explain it a bit better then?
You said there is no point voting at all if parties would be changing their policies when in a coalition, it's pretty clear what you meant. I assume the 'whooooosh' in your post was the sound of the penny dropping, from the height of a large building.
1. You immediately bring in Labour as if to say "ohh they would do the same"
This doesnt give your argument more support, it in fact makes the situation worse.
2. Obviously i dont think every single manifesto pledge should be adhered to rigidly and enforced by law. (but thats not the point i'm making)
What i am bemoaning is not that they are playing fast and loose with the voters (though they are
) but that there is no system in place which safeguards your vote. Now if the choice you chose is an illusion and does not actually exist then we might as well shut our eyes and vote for where-ever it lands...it would have as much credence.Government for the people by the people? (dont laugh!)
There should be something in place thought up by better men and women than i. But it should at least try to give ones choice real meaning. Rather than the choice not mattering at all.
Now that doesnt mean "oh Surfer thats idiotic you cant legally bind parties to what they promised in their pre-election manifestos" (straw man fallacy i think)
What would probably give my argument more strength is if i now go and check the last say 20 pre-election pledges made by a political party prior to when it got in power and see if they actually pushed through with it. And also check to see what percentage of their manifesto they kept (promised to do). Unfortunately i am lazy!
The two most common responses i see from politicans when they are called to task about something they did or didnt do which flew in the face of their manifesto is
a) Coalition so sorry but we have to work with other party
b) Now that we are actually in office and had a look at the books ourselves the situation is much worse than we had been led to believe so we cannot do X or Y or Z and in fact will be making cuts and increasing taxes across the board.
Its well beyond a cliche now......
oh the whoosh thing is to indicate it going above your head
I know this probably goes against the grain, but I'd argue that hurling a heavy object from a tall building into a crowd of people is an offense greater than the act downloading of prohibited imagess.
Theres a lot of comparison in threads like this, and I honestly can't fathom how people consider such things so heinous that they trump intentional violence against another person.