stuttering in games

nighthawk1997 · 14 Dec 2022 at 10:30

Hello all!
i really need some help have been having this very annoying issue!

RTX4090
INTEL I713700K
32GB KINGSTON FURY BEAST DDR5
GIGABYTE M.2 SSD
LG OLED C2 120HZ 4K TV

Basically i am having this stuttering issue. it looks to be when cpu cores reach 100% in some titles it gets these fps lows which cause stutter at 4k. its driving me insane and ruining my experience and i am in need of some help. i have gsync enabled with vsync and fps cap of 117fps.

worst games are farcry 6, guardians of galaxy, witcher next gen

Thanks in advance

nighthawk1997 · 14 Dec 2022 at 12:20

thanks for the reply.

i am actually on windows 11 already so this is why its so strange. basically i notice some of the CPU cores reaching 100% when gaming... not sure if this is normal but i get this awful stuttering when it happens. has anyone got a suggestion or solution to this?

thanks

nighthawk1997 · 14 Dec 2022 at 13:59

i have done a fresh windows installa nd still happens in most games i play. i have changed every single part and its like 3-4 of the cores reaching 100% i have just bought a new motherboard ats z790 instead of my z690 incase its a mobo fault. overall cpu usage is not that but its the specific cores that are doing it. its happened with i712700 and now my 13700 so only thing i can think of now is the motherboard..
i found this out using msi afterburner

please also note its a 120hz lg oled c2 i play on as well i have this locked at 117 with gsync and vsync but same issues with it on or off
cheers

nighthawk1997 · 14 Dec 2022 at 18:31

anyone else got any suggestions? I will report back here this evening with the new built system on a z790 board instead once I finish building it. I hope this is the fix as my fps lows are very very bad.

cheers

nighthawk1997 · 15 Dec 2022 at 01:00

i have tried all of these steps and jsut finished my build today witth z790.

i am playing farcry 6on absolute max settings at 4k and according the bench mark on there my low is only 91fps and high is 117. however it stutters during the game. this is the only game i have installed currently. there is nothing else on my systems. so why on earth is it stuttering.... jsut a terrible game? i expected with my build maybe everything would run butter smooth. do i have to high expectations?

nighthawk1997 · 15 Dec 2022 at 09:40

Hello.

Yes I am using a certified hdmi 2.1 cable but had the same issue with my 1440p monitor with display port.
I noticed on farcry 6 if I turn my settings to high and HD textures off with RT off the issue almost completely goes away. Occasional stutter but not too bad. Are we saying that my rig is not powerful enough to run farcry maxed out?

Cheers for the replies

nighthawk1997 · 15 Dec 2022 at 10:27

Seems a lot of people have stutter with farcry 6. It’s defo when my fps lows are bad my 1% as MSI says the lows were like 60 from 117 which would cause a stutter I think

nighthawk1997 · 15 Dec 2022 at 14:39

anyone else got any other suggestions please? really struggling with what is causing the dips. obviously turning settings down reduces the Loews and stops as many dips. but do you think I am pushing it to far maxing out farcry 6? should a 4090 be capable of this?

nighthawk1997 · 15 Dec 2022 at 15:34

throwaway4372 said:
The gpu isn't the problem, the 100% cpu usage is.

its a 13700k and the same happened with my 12700k. How can these be using so much usage in some game its a next generation cpu...? its basically a brand new build.

cheers

nighthawk1997 · 15 Dec 2022 at 16:41

throwaway4372 said:
no idea why tbh

I think it is normal for cpu cores to reach 100 percent in cases though when gaming. Some cases though it’s like 80% in the cores and still stutters. I am desperate to resolve it!

nighthawk1997 · 16 Dec 2022 at 00:25

could it be my ddr5 ram having cas latency of C40 5200. not able to send the info to the cpu quick enough then causing fps drops?

nighthawk1997 · 16 Dec 2022 at 03:15

Tetras said:
I shouldn't think so, especially not at 4K. 360p with a 4090 then yeah, maybe

Ye doubtful it’s that and I have had the issue with other monitors as well.

nighthawk1997 · 17 Dec 2022 at 01:32

theforce said:
Doesn't hurt to run LatencyMon to see if a driver is causing the issue.

i have ran this and there does not seem to be an issue. i feel like i am going crazy and its every game. not every game is as bad for example warzone maybe has an fps from every 5 mins that causes a stutter and red dead when it goes into the 80s as 1% low i get a stutter.

nighthawk1997 · 17 Dec 2022 at 22:59

the same is happening now in RD2 - the game gets these random lows down to like 50fps. is this my ram being to slow with a CAS 40?

nighthawk1997 · 18 Dec 2022 at 00:06

Ye I did time spy and I got an above average score for my hardware. I’m confused though cause RD2 there is no ray tracing and it’s dipping below 60fps and that’s when it stutters on there as well…
Just don’t feel I should be getting the stutters from the fps drops….

nighthawk1997 · 20 Dec 2022 at 14:41

Okay so I had to replace my cpu as there was an issue in it. Didn’t seem to change performance as switched for a 13900kf and j am still experiencing the random fps drops.

What is normal amount of stutter. For example spider man might stutter once ever 5 minutes is this normal? Farcry seems okay at 60fps locked but still occasional stutter.

What do we class as normal regarding the amount of stutter. My games are not just stuttering all of the time it’s every few minutes or so I get one fps drop. Cpu usage on 1 of the cores reached 85 percent during gameplay which I think is normal???

It’s starting to drive me insane though as I just expected flawless gameplay to be honest all the time

nighthawk1997 · 20 Dec 2022 at 14:55

Tetras said:
I'd suggest you run some score based benchmarks on your CPU and graphics card to check 100% that your system is performing correctly, because it's really hard to know what exactly you're referring to ('stutter' means completely different things to different people).

Is a 4090 a monster at 4K and a capable card even with everything turned on (including ray tracing)? Yes. Will a 4090 never dip below 60 fps in the latest games/updates? No. The 4090 does come bloody close, but no graphics card has mastered 4K with RT yet (nor have the game engines, tbh).

Hello,

I actually did a time spy test today on 3D mark and my score was good at 32536.

Cheers

nighthawk1997 · 20 Dec 2022 at 15:33

Tetras said:
On a hard drive and a slow SSD, it's fairly normal to get occasional stutter while things are loaded, especially at the start of a level, for example. But, what you're describing sounds more common than what I'd expect.

I am using 980 pro SSD so things seem to be fine with that regard. I don’t get it when loading into a level it’s when the fps suddenly drops lower it stutters. I have completely rebuilt the pc with all new components so I genuinely so confused…

How normal are stutters just during game play. Please note they are like microstutters not huge freezes

nighthawk1997 · 20 Dec 2022 at 15:57

Tetras said:
Have you checked the event viewer for disk errors and ran a full scan via Samsung magician?

During normal gameplay, if you're using settings that the computer can handle reasonably well, then I'd expect to see very few, but it does depend on the game & the engine, some games are more prone to hitches than others.

So I actually just put another SSD in from gigabyte that was the same spec and I still encountered the issues. That’s how I rules out a faulty SSD and yes I have ran Samsung magician and it all came back normal.

Would you say I should not be putting everything on ultra at 4k?

nighthawk1997 · 20 Dec 2022 at 16:07

Tetras said:
Well, you're more likely to encounter issues (fps drops), yes, but it is hard to say for definite what's normal, because it really depends on the game and then it can even depend on specific things, like levels, number of players, particular effects on the screen, etc.

My 3DMark score seems pretty normal as well Right? Cpu is only at 60-70 degrees when gaming as well!