~Subwoofer?

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Has anyone got a decent home cinema subwoofer?

I have a BK monolith plus which I'm looking to upgrade.

I've looked into PSA and the new Arendal 2V. Not sure which to go for.
 
What about Arendal 2V or psa tv1812?
Or sealed PSA dual inch 18

those 3 all come in under 2.7k or less

I've got a svs SB ultra 13. Good sub but I'd like to upgrade and get duals


Not much choice for high end big subs in the UK, and going to be expensive. rythmik and jtr also if you're ok with importing
 
S3612 is a good sub, but you may want to consider duals to get a flatter response.

There's the ipal versions also.

Personally I prefer sealed box subs, and two good sealed box subs will be plenty..

Nice. I am considering the S3612.
The Arendal 2V can be ran sealed or vented so thats in the race too.

Just the fact I could switch from sealed to vented is pretty cool. The numbers for it seem good too.

My room can only fit one sub.. so I don't need to worry about the second.. yet...

What sub are you running?
 
If you're the same guy on avforums, you don't need two monster subs in that size room, I ran a single svs SB ultra 13 in a similar sized toomy and it was superb. And in that room size, sealed will be better.

Running the svs sbu13 paired with svs sb12+...not ideal two different subs but having second does help...but now in a room three times the size.

I had a svs pc ultra 13 in similar sized room as yours and it didn't sound great, for music.

Thank you, I’m going to settle on a sealed sub as I think it’d be a nice change too from the monolith plus.
How big is ur current room?
 
Do you already have digital room correction in place to deal with room nodes? If not, then I'm going to suggest that you do that first. It was easily the biggest improvement that I made to the bass in my system.

As an example, my lounge has a node at around 38hz of above +10db, with a secondary at 76hz of around +5db. From experience, there's simply no getting around that, short of either having speakers that don't go that low, and I found that integration with a sub nearly impossible. With DRC in place, I now get a very smooth transition between my main speakers and sub.


Nope. How much would that cost?

I have bought a mini dsp and microphone if that helps..
 
If you already have a mini dsp, I’m assuming that it’s just a question of setting it up and using it.
Sorry, don’t know much about the unit.
Will do it this week! :)
70 cubic meters
Sweet!
Mine is pretty similar.


I’ll go with the s1812

the Arendal 2V and 2s are our of the question now as they require 10cm if space either side of the subwoofer with the power connections at the back. It will be a pain in the butt to place / impossible.
 
Another option is dual s1512. Dual 15" may be better than single 18", flatter response. Cone area also.


Thank you mate. I can fit to s18 so might as well go with those.

and my decision is done... god so much stress for the past 3 days of research.
All got sorted in the end when I realised the Arendal s due to the dual subwoofers wouldn’t actually fit in my room and would be firing into my wall, sofa and tv cabinet.

only issue with these PSA are they aren’t pretty like the Arendal but I guess that’s a good thing as one of them is up against a radiator so is going to get it’s body destroys lol.
 
Pros and cons of sealed, and ported...

Two subs will be better than one.


thanks. I decided to build a hoverboss first as everyone has a 2-4 week waiting time on when they'll have the subs in stock. Then I'll likely check measurements and see what 0-10hz coverage I get.
I'll update the sub after its based on what I'm lacking re experience then. Hoping the hoverboss gives me some good stuff at 0-10hz.

Dual subs wise, its between 2xS1812s, 2x Arendal 1723 1V or 2x TV1512s (if they're released by that time and priced lower than the S1812s).

I'll likely demo the Arendal and S1812 in-room before making a decision. Also going to talk to Arendal if the 2S/2V will work in my room given I can't give the 2 side sof the sub more than <5cm to work. I'm guessing they'll say go for the 1V lol.
 
Ipals are getting good feedback...but even more expensive.

I can't justify £4000 on subwoofers

i agree with u. im gonna measure my null points tommorow and see if i can get away with 1 sub tbh.

Yeah, I'm going to see what the hoverboss is like and re-assess the situation.
I might end up with 2x Arendal 1Vs. I like the idea of being able to seal them up or allow them to play out vented and the build quality just oozes class.
The S18s are going to have the lower end extension but if the hoverboss gives me 1-10hz in spades.. then I don't need it that badly.
10 year warranty of arendal, superior dynamics most likely, infinitely better build quality... beautiful looks.. edges me towards them.
i like the S18s for their no compromise focus on power and output and value for money..


also the exchnage rate might play a small part in my decision re: arendal :D
 
Get two subs its so good. Never going to have just one again.


Thanks mate. I am considering this. space is a bit tight in the room and will require me to get a new TV stand but I could do.

I did REW and TBH my current subwoofer placement is awesome. I have great coverage and only one dip which my friend was able to calibrate out with a custom EQ curve.

If I go for double subs, its a question of 2x PSA 1812s or 2x Arendals 1Vs in sealed mode. Edging towards the Arendal because 10 year warranty, superior build quality, smaller cabinet design and the option of vented or sealed mode where I expected Vented mode will soar in terms of output.

However the PSA 1812s are... well an 18'' woofer and thats kind of hard to pass up easily and their in-room extension is freaking phenomenal.

I just fear looking at used PSA subwoofer prices, it will become very hard to move on if the time comes, as PSA seem to upgrade new models of their subwoofers every year with multiple different variations whilst Arendal will probably stick with their current line now for at least 5 years.

I have just bought the parts for a HOVERBOSS so that should cover single digit ULF frequencies in the room.. so I don't need the in-room extension I guess... Argh...
 
hoverboss = hilarious. Are you going to be posting a build log?
Doubt it. Will do a review of it and list parts used but that’s about it.

I’m quite excited for it. See it as one of the next levels of immersion much alike rumble on a controller.

everyone I’ve spoken to who has one has said the ULF generated and the low hz it hits normally would require a dedicated infrasonic subwoofer.

after this, I need to:
Buy a jvc nx7
Buy 2 subwoofers
Buy a 77inch GX to replace the CX
Upgrade the toys (new gpu, ps5)
emotiva power amp

arghhhh
 
Ideally you want a av amp capable of dual sub eq and calibration not just dual mono out.

Need to use REW to get best place also

I've bought a mini dsp 2x4HD and UMIK already which does a decent job with REW.
REW is strangely addictive.

My frequency response curve for a single sub at the moment makes me smile but dual wielding will be fun.
still not sure where I'm going to go with 2x Arendal 1vs or PSA 1812s. 10 year warranty, EU... probably arendal..
 
Just a question. You appear to be considering spending a good deal of dosh on more speakers, yet you're running a mid-range AVR.
Might be worth looking at options amongst a good pre-pro combo.


Haha, I am already in the market for an Emotiva or NORD amp. ;)
Just waiting for the right deal to come up as I'm not in a gigantic rush at present but I do agree with you, its something I need to get sorted eventually.
My front 3 could definitely do with it.

In terms of pre, I'm not willing to jump until a device which as at least 2x HDMI 2.1 inputs (one for my PC and one for my future PS5.. and maybe one for my future XBOX) is available as I know I'll have have to upgrade again.
Also I am moving house in the next year so I'm not sure how many channels I will end up needing, hence I am waiting as I might try to expand from 5.1.2 to 7.2.4.


The issue is that as much I do love sound, splashing for the 'final' sound upgrade of HDMI 2.1 AVR, power amps and 2-4 more channels will probably stretch me 5-7k, and that should be in the JVC NX7-mark2 terrirtory, which is what I'll likely go for instead.
 
Stop mucking around and get a Trinnov


Honestly, its on the distant-radar (the 16 channel version though.. lol). Maybe 24 months time.
But that will be my missing piece of the puzzle as I have many more components to upgrade first.

(Projector, Subwoofer, HoverBOSS, Amplification, Decor, More channels)
 
I wouldn't buy emotiva. I'm using ATI 2000 series. I'm looking for a new av pre, still using non hdmi, Dolby digital/dts 7.1 av pre, new ones are either buggy, or just too expensive...and out of date so quickly with hdmi spec.


Yeah for pre.. i think if you're a gamer, you're kinda stuck for now. My denon does everything I need except Dolby Vision HDMI 2.1 and it will in the future run out of channels as its only 7 channels which are all used up. I think I can comfortably wait for a pre as everything else is more of a tangible upgrade (projector, rears, amplifier, subwoofer, hoverboss).

I'll look at ATI and try to keep an eye out. Ideally I'd love to get an amp second hand as I have nothing in my setup second hand and I feel its always good value to second hand except for the HW40Es as much as you can in AV.
 
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