Surge Pricing

But if you have sold all your sandwiches then you have sold them all. You have sold them all...... You made all your money.

The idea you can sell something slower for more is one of the most bizzare concepts ever.
 
But if you have sold all your sandwiches then you have sold them all. You have sold them all...... You made all your money.

And if you can sell some of them for more money, you've made even more money.

Why wouldn't you do that?
 
Imagine that, big businesses trying to make as much profit as possible.

If they can make more money from the same amount of stock, why wouldn't they?

Why not just put 5p oñ everything, still sell out or reduce all your stock at end of the day like most places have to anyway.
 
And if you can sell some of them for more money, you've made even more money.

Why wouldn't you do that?

Or if you have such a good product that it sells out, set the price higher in the first place or have stock that matches daily demand.

Why do you need prices to change throughout the day?

If I was a shop, I'd rather be marginally overstocked (which I think most supermarkets are).
 
Why not just put 5p oñ everything, still sell out or reduce all your stock at end of the day like most places have to anyway.

Because then you'll just be more expensive than everyone generally.

If you just 'surge' at lunchtime when your market is captive, in a rush, don't have time to go the extra 5 miles down the road to your competition etc. then you make more money without being more expensive all the time.
 
And if you can sell some of them for more money, you've made even more money.

Why wouldn't you do that?

I wouldn't do that because it turns off customers as it's rather insulting.

Many have already said they wouldn't shop at a place that did this.
 
Problem is that it likely would be more profitable to have more stock in the first place and sell to all customers. The better stocked supermarket which can do this will win over one that attempts to vary prices because it hasn't planned for demand appropriately.

of course, dynamic pricing doesn't negate the need for good stock control, but the focus in my response and with the simple example by the other poster was this dynamic pricing and its utility
 
I wouldn't do that because it turns off customers as it's rather insulting.

Many have already said they wouldn't shop at a place that did this.

We'll see how that goes when all the major shops are doing it and 'won't shop at a place that does this' essentially means you won't be shopping anywhere bigger than your local co-op :p

They're not in business to be nice, they're in business to take your money. If they think they can successfully take more of it overall by surge charging for certain things at certain times, they will do.

If their competition think they'll make more money by playing on not doing it, they'll do that.
 
But if you have sold all your sandwiches then you have sold them all. You have sold them all...... You made all your money.

The idea you can sell something slower for more is one of the most bizzare concepts ever.

It is the idea that you can sell something for more than you did that is potentially important there re: efficiency. It is just going to turn into an optimisation problem, obviously if you can increase the supply then that is a factor too - however in your simple scenario you've got a finite amount and they're going quickly ergo it is probably optimal for the price to increase.
 
Where do we draw the line? Fast food Restaurants charge more during lunch and dinner times?

Petrol goes up at weekends.

Train prices go up in rush hour? :P oh damn....
 
Unfair and exploitative? Come off it. The only people even affected by this will be those who buy food on the go instead of doing a regular shop, ie those who have extra money to burn.
 
Where do we draw the line? Fast food Restaurants charge more during lunch and dinner times?

Petrol goes up at weekends.

Train prices go up in rush hour? :p oh damn....

The line will be drawn wherever they can't make extra money by inflating prices alongside demand :p
 
With surge pricing in effect, 1am would likely be the optimal time for sandwich purchasing :p

I think it would actually be the highest. Low volume of customers means either you sell for a high price now and make enough money to pay employees (who are probably being paid extra), or simply be closed right now.

Big supermarkets are generally subsidising sales right now from sales during the day. Very few even bother to stay open after midnight.

It is also why Tesco Express, Sainsburys Local etc. are generally more expensive than the main stores. They lack economies of scale and are open longer on average.
 
I think it would actually be the highest. Low volume of customers means either you sell for a high price now and make enough money to pay employees (who are probably being paid extra), or simply be closed right now.

Big supermarkets are generally subsidising sales right now from sales during the day. Very few even bother to stay open after midnight.

It is also why Tesco Express, Sainsburys Local etc. are generally more expensive than the main stores. They lack economies of scale and are open longer on average.

Tesco Express, Sainsburys Local etc are generally more expensive because of their geographic location, i.e. they are closer than the nearest larger supermarket, ergo they increase their prices so you pay for the convenience. Nothing to do with them being open longer or shorter
 
total over reaction by most in here imo.
if you look at the data it increases profit by just 3% but reduces waste by 30% that tells me that unlike the name it is not increasing the prices, but is more able to respond to low demand and can quickly implement bogof offers or similar to shift stock rather than throwing it in the waste bin after spending money to purchase it in the first place. As well as fewer errors and reduce staffing needs further.
https://www.theguardian.com/technol...omes-to-the-supermarket-dynamic-personal-data
Earlier this year the French market leader SES took a majority share in Horgan’s firm, giving it access to 15,000 stores. Only two or three of those at the moment are in Britain – Spar stores in Walthamstow and Hackney in London, where they are experimenting with dynamic pricing in the food hall, particularly with bread. The retailers show not only an uplift in revenue and profit (of 2.5%), but also a drop in wasted food of around 30%, according to Market Hub. They are selling their products in part as an eco-efficient system that prevents waste.

“When we set out,” Horgan says, “there were literally hundreds of startups analysing where customers were going in the store, or whatever. But there was also a ‘so what?’ about that. It didn’t make any difference without the ability to execute price [changes] and to make that change at the shelf. We developed a piece of software called Pulse, which analyses sales, weight, stock, and competitors’ prices that allows you to basically decide or not decide to take a trade. A city centre store will want to catch customers at the end of the day before they head home, so what level do you set your price at?”

Horgan suggests that British retailers are still a bit terrified that customers will be put off by changing prices – they notice one shift in price of a loaf of bread, but don’t see 50 changes of price in the vacuum cleaner they are browsing on Amazon. He believes that the system can benefit both consumer and retailer though, because it is about getting the right deal. “If you have enough data you can get closer and closer to the ideal, which is giving your customers what they want and at the time they want it, rather than overwhelming them with deals.”

It also perhaps has the potential to offer a glimmer of hope for the beleaguered high street. Shops are all too aware of the habit of “showrooming”, by which customers look at products in stores before going home and browsing the best deals for them online. Electronic price-tag systems can not only track online prices, they can – and sometimes do – also display at point of sale the hidden cost of shipping if the same product was bought online – a cost that most online customers don’t factor in. “There is a way for [high street] retailers to become profitable again,” Horgan insists.
 
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Stores won't surge price change lunch, already a lot of them lose money on their lunch deals to increase footfall at what is usually a quieter time (not school rush/weekend/evening topup) to encourage customers to pick up food for an evening meal or essentials instead of waiting until the end of the day.

Electronic price tags would make shopping so much easier, so many times I've picked up an item and the label hasn't been corrected since last week's price change or it reads the wrong price at the checkout. At least with linked price tags the checkout and the labels should show the same. If they are planning surge prices I'd expect the checkout to allow 30-60mins from the price change to allow the customer to buy the item at the lower price.
 
Actually that's true, shouldn't your product be at it's cheapest when there is plentiful supply and maximum customers?

Muon is right. Shouldn't off peak sarnies cost more because they sell less and need to cover overheads more?
 
If it's 30% less waste doesn't that directly translate to more profit? Unless they flat out ordered 30% less stock. Which is still more profit?
I hate economics.

I am all up for minimising food waste though, so if it's this effective then maybe it is a good thing. Apply it to all areas of supermarket shopping?
 
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