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Swap X6800 for QX6700 ?

XtAsY said:
Mothing wrong with my temps at all. Its about 40 in idle and 50 on load.

Look at it like this, you've seen the graphs showing how much faster the quad is than the X6800 when it comes to things like CPU rendering and multithreaded applications? Well, expect the same massive performance gains in multithreaded games. Half Life 2 - Episode 2 is due Q1 next year. UT2007 will also be out by summer next year, and maybe Alan Wake. You've got 2 extra cores so essentially you have twice the computing power. The X6800 is the better gaming CPU for the moment, but not for that much longer.
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Yeah....I think I will go for the quad. Will be changing over in 2 weeks or so.

You are obviously on water or better to be getting 50 underload. As I do not think it is possible on air going by user reviews on various forums. Sure the thing idles on air in the 40's and that's with a Tuniq and an Akasa Eclipse with decent fans.
 
Cyber-Mav said:
if he wants a straight swap no cash then i would swap any day.
at the end of the day the quad core is worth more.
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Exactly.

As an aside, in the pc world there is no such thing as "future proofing". Because when you reach the future you "future proofed" for then another future will be just round the corner rendering your future proofing un-future proof - if that makes an sense.

A corollary to that is when the future you future proofed for arrives, a cheaper more efficient version of your hardware will be out for cheaper (90% of the time). Think about it for a second. You have no real use for quad core right now right. You might in say Q2 next year. So effectively your quad core will be useless till applications/games you use utilise 4 cores. Thats not gonna be till mid next year by which time intel would probably have a cheaper, more efficient native quad core chip.

For example look at all the 8800gtx (and effectively DX10) proponents. They initially said they purchased the 8800 to future proof their rigs for DX10 (which in itself is amazing as they have no idea whatsoever how well the 8800 will cope with DX10 games as there aren't any out! You can't assume because they do well in DX9 they will in DX10 too (5800 ultra anyone?)"

Anyway, some good fellows on here pointed out to them that the DX10 games they supposedly bought their cards for won't be out till earliest Q2 2007 by which time the G80 refresh and the R600 (both of which will almost definitely be quicker than the 8800gtx ) will be out for similar money. In short...silly idea (if for DX10)

They then changed tune and said nah, we got them for their blistering DX9 performance - which they have. But then Easy goes and starts a thread suggesting, and subsequently arguing, DX9 is dead...lol.

In short...only swap because your quad will have a higer value if you decide to sell soon. Don't buy it to "future proof" your system.
 
Good advice. Yeah...he wants to do a straight swap and now I know why. There is a MAJOR fsb overclocking problem with quads using 680i mobos. Everyone on the EVGA site can only overclock their quads using the multiplier. Very few if any have gotten past 300mhz fsb !! Not good. Seeing as at the end of the month I am planning on getting a BFG 680i mobo and another BFG 680i, things do not bode well in the overclocking department for me if I was to get a quad.

Still, the quad will have a higher resale value in the future, and when games support it - it will be faster. I suppose I could live with just upping the multiplier.

http://www.evga.com/community/messageboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=21683
 
My quad out of the box 11x291 3.2ghz overclock is stable on my 680i,i`ll try the 300fsb to see what happens.

EDIT: can get 10x320 nps anything higher i run into trouble,but i think this will be fixed with a bios update as this motherboard is still new.

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On a Tuniq ????

What are you using to measure the temps ???
By under load are you talking about gaming or priming.
You must be in a very cold room.

The reason I ask is because my cpu is cooled the same as yours and at 3.6ghz idles at the moment at 31 degrees according to CoreTemp. I just ran Orthos and within 2-3 seconds it suddently jumps to 47 degrees. And going by past sessions after about 8 hours, the max recorded temp was in the high 50's. During gaming it obviously doesn't get anywhere near that hot.

Now this cpu uses a lot less power then my mates 3.3ghz quad. We have had this running in my rig as well to verify his temps. And under the same conditions, each core idles in the low to high 40's. And running Orthos (verison I have uses only 2 cores), the temps can be seen to hitting high 60's on the 2 cores not been used, and high 70's on the ones been used...almost approaching 80 on on of them. This ties in with reviews and other users I have spoken to.

So I cannot see how it is physically possible on air to see a max of 55 degrees when priming. Even Core2Duo's go higher then this for most people. And I have spoken to lots, including people on water and phase.

Extreme Systems : lots of people reporting high 60's when priming (watercooled) and up as high as 80. Using Tuniqs on full speed.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1901644

Same on the evga forums
http://www.evga.com/community/messageboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=22894&#145450


The only thing I can conclude is that a lot of this depends on what you use to measure your temps. A lot of mobo's are very inaccurate though from what I read about the 680i it exagerrates temps upwards. I would have assumed that TAT or CoreTemp on an Intel mobo (which is what I am using) was accurate enough though, but maybe I am wrong. I also know lapping helps (maybe 4-5 degrees), but 55 degrees under load seems extraordinarily low.

Can you elaborate please as this is very important since I might be getting a quad soon.

thanks
 
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Another point mate is most games, (although I admit they 'feel' quicker) is that there running similer frame rates on 2.8ghz A64's as 3.5ghz core2's, ONCE you turn up the details, it nearly always becomes gfx card bottlenecked

So go for the quad :D, if your feeling daring you can lap the quad cores heat spreader and the bottom of the T Tower, iv heard core2's arnt quite 100% pancake flat, that should reduce temps a lot, but obviously lapping it is risky

Otherwise get yourself an appogee block, 3x120mm fan raditor, and JUST use the W/C for the CPU ONLY, should give u nice temps
 
Yeah..that's true I reckon...the video card always made the biggest difference to me. My mate is gone awol anyway, so it will be the new year before we swap cpu's. Might as well.
 
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