Swedish webhosting - any links?

ArmyofHarmony · 13 Jul 2006 at 11:35

Hey,

I'm looking for some reasonably priced Swedish hosting...anyone know any good places to buy some?

I currently use ukhost4u, which is great... im looking for a similar thing but with servers hosted in Sweden.

cheers

stoofa · 13 Jul 2006 at 12:38

Any particular reason why Sweden?
I guess I'm going to get the "obvious" answer here - that most of the market for the site will be people in Sweden.
It's just other European hosts (including the UK) should be able to get you very good connections to Sweden if it is purely on speed.

ArmyofHarmony · 13 Jul 2006 at 14:12

hmm perhaps, i'll look into it

Hamish · 13 Jul 2006 at 14:24

I'm guessing the reasons he wants to be located in sweeden can't be discussed on these forums

Beansprout · 13 Jul 2006 at 14:36

Hamish said:
I'm guessing the reasons he wants to be located in sweeden can't be discussed on these forums

Because he wants his servers and the rest of the servers in the building raided by the police? :confused:

Wayn0r · 13 Jul 2006 at 15:11

maybe its really none of your business? and should just offer what the man asks for if you can?

stoofa · 13 Jul 2006 at 15:52

Wayn0r said:
maybe its really none of your business? and should just offer what the man asks for if you can?

This could well be the case.
However I like to be as helpful to people who post here and sometimes people will ask for things without knowing all of the options.
A few years ago I would have said that I was looking for a UK host.
However my now many years of experience knows that US hosts can offer servers that are just as fast, ping and basic response times that are still very good for other UK people however they can offer a lot more space and bandwidth as it costs a lot less out there.

If the OP wants a site based in Sweden because of Swedish law and/or because the majority, say 80% of his visitors are likely to come from Sweden then I can understand his need and want for Swedish based hosting.
However UK hosts and others based in Europe (1&1 Germany etc) would be able to offer almost as fast servers and links and possibly at a better price and also arguably offering better trans-atlantic links to the US and the rest of the world.

If the OP wanted me to "mind my own business" he would have probably told me to do so (allbeit in a far less rude manner) and I would have left the thread alone to somebody who could provide the exact answer to his original question.
I don't think the OP needs people to fight his corner for him, especially as there doesn't seem to be a fight going on.

zetec452 · 13 Jul 2006 at 16:43

If you head over to www.forum2.co.uk and pop a post in *** requests section your more likely to get more companies that can help you.

Would www.poundhost.com be any good? They have stuff in Hungary.

robmiller · 13 Jul 2006 at 17:52

Get one of those lucky Swedes to host a server on his home 100/100 connection that he pays £20 a month for

daz · 13 Jul 2006 at 18:07

robmiller said:
Get one of those lucky Swedes to host a server on his home 100/100 connection that he pays £20 a month for

You do realise that they rarely get 100mbit, and that the connections is contended like mad?

Al Vallario · 13 Jul 2006 at 20:08

1. How on earth would one take advantage of Swedish law by purchasing a shared hosting account on a server located in Sweden? A dedicated server or VPS I could understand, but a shared hosting account? How would one circumvent British law through the use of a shared hosting account based in Sweden?

2. What are the chances that that OP is looking to host something where the vast majority of the target audience are going to be based in Sweden? Bare in mind we're looking at a large number of visitors (more than a shared hosting account can handle) if he is considering purchasing hosting in another country to reduce response times.

3. Even if the OP did have a site with a huge number of visitors from Sweden, was able to cater for them from a meager shared hosting account and thus had a legitimate reason for off-shoring his hosting operation, what would he gain from doing so? As stoofa up there mentioned, unless you're hosting in some obscure country where the only connection to the outside world is a 10-year-old copper cable hooked up to a 56k modem, location is going to make little to no difference when it comes to shared hosting. It would be perfectly understandable if you were looking at catering for some intensive applications — game server hosting, audio or video services etc. — but you're not going to be doing that from a shared hosting account! Are your visitors really going to notice a ~5ms difference in response time when visiting your website? I know I wouldn't.

I think we have every right to ask what the OP's intentions are; if not purely to hit him down and inform him he's wasting his time.

av.

robmiller · 13 Jul 2006 at 20:46

daz said:
You do realise that they rarely get 100mbit, and that the connections is contended like mad?

Most Swedes I've spoken to are able to get around 10MB/s (80mbit) so it's hardly that bad (and more than enough to run a webserver from).

robc123 · 13 Jul 2006 at 21:49

robmiller said:
Most Swedes I've spoken to are able to get around 10MB/s (80mbit) so it's hardly that bad (and more than enough to run a webserver from).

Slight over exaggeration

stoofa · 14 Jul 2006 at 00:29

Al Vallario said:
1. How on earth would one take advantage of Swedish law by purchasing a shared hosting account on a server located in Sweden? A dedicated server or VPS I could understand, but a shared hosting account? How would one circumvent British law through the use of a shared hosting account based in Sweden?

2. What are the chances that that OP is looking to host something where the vast majority of the target audience are going to be based in Sweden? Bare in mind we're looking at a large number of visitors (more than a shared hosting account can handle) if he is considering purchasing hosting in another country to reduce response times.

3. Even if the OP did have a site with a huge number of visitors from Sweden, was able to cater for them from a meager shared hosting account and thus had a legitimate reason for off-shoring his hosting operation, what would he gain from doing so? As stoofa up there mentioned, unless you're hosting in some obscure country where the only connection to the outside world is a 10-year-old copper cable hooked up to a 56k modem, location is going to make little to no difference when it comes to shared hosting. It would be perfectly understandable if you were looking at catering for some intensive applications — game server hosting, audio or video services etc. — but you're not going to be doing that from a shared hosting account! Are your visitors really going to notice a ~5ms difference in response time when visiting your website? I know I wouldn't.

I think we have every right to ask what the OP's intentions are; if not purely to hit him down and inform him he's wasting his time.

av.

Well thank you - somebody who actually understands why it was I was asking the question in the first place about "Why Sweden"

I wasn't being nosey - it's just if we know why he wanted hosting in Sweden we would be able to probably advise going for US based hosting which is a damn sight cheaper than European based hosting and really not that much slower.

Beansprout · 14 Jul 2006 at 02:10

stoofa said:
we would be able to probably advise going for US based hosting which is a damn sight cheaper than European based hosting and really not that much slower.

I would like to refute that statement (the cheaper side - the slower side, while also true, isn't toooo much of an issue unless, in my experience, you have a >2mbit/sec connection, in which case download speeds will suffer)

Wayn0r · 14 Jul 2006 at 10:35

stoofa said:
This could well be the case.
However I like to be as helpful to people who post here and sometimes people will ask for things without knowing all of the options.
A few years ago I would have said that I was looking for a UK host.
However my now many years of experience knows that US hosts can offer servers that are just as fast, ping and basic response times that are still very good for other UK people however they can offer a lot more space and bandwidth as it costs a lot less out there.

If the OP wants a site based in Sweden because of Swedish law and/or because the majority, say 80% of his visitors are likely to come from Sweden then I can understand his need and want for Swedish based hosting.
However UK hosts and others based in Europe (1&1 Germany etc) would be able to offer almost as fast servers and links and possibly at a better price and also arguably offering better trans-atlantic links to the US and the rest of the world.

If the OP wanted me to "mind my own business" he would have probably told me to do so (allbeit in a far less rude manner) and I would have left the thread alone to somebody who could provide the exact answer to his original question.
I don't think the OP needs people to fight his corner for him, especially as there doesn't seem to be a fight going on.

Wasnt a stab at you stoofa, just the other people, as in other forums, who tend to jump straight to the "OMG WAREZ" conclusion.

ArmyofHarmony · 14 Jul 2006 at 11:42

By the way, it wasn't "warez" I was going to be hosting.

Another issue has come up meaning I wont be able to do the project I was planning on doing :/

and I can't explain what I was going to do because i'm sure someone with more effort could steal my idea

stoofa · 14 Jul 2006 at 12:55

Beansprout said:
I would like to refute that statement (the cheaper side - the slower side, while also true, isn't toooo much of an issue unless, in my experience, you have a >2mbit/sec connection, in which case download speeds will suffer)

I've never been able to source UK space & bandwidth anywhere near as cheap as US.
Although I mainly have been looking at the higher level of hosting where servers are not oversold to death - The £5-£10 / $10-$20 market I guess is about the same.

stoofa · 14 Jul 2006 at 12:56

Wayn0r said:
Wasnt a stab at you stoofa, just the other people, as in other forums, who tend to jump straight to the "OMG WAREZ" conclusion.

Probably me over-reacting without reading the whole post

Beansprout · 14 Jul 2006 at 13:45

stoofa said:
I've never been able to source UK space & bandwidth anywhere near as cheap as US.
Although I mainly have been looking at the higher level of hosting where servers are not oversold to death - The £5-£10 / $10-$20 market I guess is about the same.

I suppose once you get into the higher level of the market factors such as local wages, power/equipment costs etc come into play and in that area I'd agree the UK is probably, like almost every other sort of tech item, more expensive

You could compare prices between Rackspace US and Rackspace UK, that should give an idea of cost differences.

What you have in the US is lots of large companies operating on economies of scale and throwing out huge numbers (I haven't quite worked out the reason for that yet, except that in the US everything is larger?)

Probably because the UK is simply smaller in terms of, well, everything...market size, free land, etc; there's simply nothing on the scale of the huge multiple-datacentre-owning companies out there.

That said though my company's latest server, which is in the UK, is far cheaper than the US one we have (for an equivalent spec.) We don't get as much bandwidth but to be honest I've never needed it.