Sweet spot build?

DampDog

DampDog

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I'm mulling over a new build. I built my current machine around the end of 2010 iirc and while it does most of the things I require of it, I've just got that itch to start again.

So slightly random question in what machine would I come up with if I cherry picked all the "sweet-spot" price vs performance components? As a starter CPU wise the Ryzen 1700 looks about the best bang for buck, (or is it?) but what else jumps out as the pick of the bunch component wise. For now being able to use my current monitor (1920X1080)with everything at high quality for gaming would be sufficient unless there are some cheap monitors to be had.

So first piece of the jigsaw

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/amd-...hz-socket-am4-processor-retail-cp-39x-am.html
 
DampDog said:
I'm mulling over a new build. I built my current machine around the end of 2010 iirc and while it does most of the things I require of it, I've just got that itch to start again.

So slightly random question in what machine would I come up with if I cherry picked all the "sweet-spot" price vs performance components? As a starter CPU wise the Ryzen 1700 looks about the best bang for buck, (or is it?) but what else jumps out as the pick of the bunch component wise. For now being able to use my current monitor (1920X1080)with everything at high quality for gaming would be sufficient unless there are some cheap monitors to be had.

So first piece of the jigsaw

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/amd-...hz-socket-am4-processor-retail-cp-39x-am.html
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whats your current spec ? what can you keep from it and whats your budget?
Theres a lovely deal on for AOC 32" Freesync screen , VA panel for £200 and 75hz- great for 1070 or Vega 56 - even rx 580 in some games with settings turned down

ryzen 1700 is great for streamers but most gamers stick to ryzen 1600 and use the extra cash on GPU or now getting RAM to 16GB as its expensive- and wont go down any time soon

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prob most common budget ryzen build for gaming

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £467.47 (includes shipping: £10.50)​
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if you want to go all out

@8 Pack ram and Taichi board- which he highly rates

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £698.47 (includes shipping: £10.50)​
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Memory price is really poor atm, I just checked and found a receipt for 16gb 3200 DDR4 for £99 from march, now at the other end of the year its double.
 
Hotwired said:
Memory price is really poor atm, I just checked and found a receipt for 16gb 3200 DDR4 for £99 from march, now at the other end of the year its double.
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will be for a very long time most likely, more iphones, smasung and other brands moving to DDR4 always as tablets easily out strip those of PC demands and are rising
 
Cheers for the quick response. I'm toying with starting again from scratch and either selling my current machine on, or having a little go at using it as a HTPC. I've not really decided as yet I'm just thinking about it thus far.

Must admit I've not looked at memory prices in quite some time and they certainly are a little crazy at the moment. Is there any particular reason or as they say when they put the prices up "it's all due to market forces";):)

What'd the current thinking on ram size? Is 8Gig enough or is 16Gig becoming the norm?

How do you get the "My basket" thingy to work?

Current build

Gigabyte P55-USB3 (1156)
I5-760 (2.8)
8Gig XMS
HD 6850
1TB F3
250Gig Samsung SSD (Non Pro)
Corsair 850W
 
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you'll see a massive increase in performance with either ryzen or coffeelake even with keeping your current GPU :D , after 3rd gen- large improvements stopped until now with adding 2 extra cores as well as high clock speeds. 2nd gen was a good jump over your current first gen
 
orbitalwalsh said:
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you'll see a massive increase in performance with either ryzen or coffeelake even with keeping your current GPU :D , after 3rd gen- large improvements stopped until now with adding 2 extra cores as well as high clock speeds. 2nd gen was a good jump over your current first gen
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To be truthful I wasn't sure which path to take towards a little bit more performance and longevity. My first thought was to simply buy a better GPU, but my mother board won't even do 6Gb/s on the sata bus, it's limited to 3Gb/s (early board) so that's one potential bottleneck anyway So I think the best way forwards might well be new CPU/Motherboard/memory and soldier on with me current HD6850 and look to swap that next year.

Following 20mins browsing, I thought this combo might do the trick but am open to suggestions.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £515.47 (includes shipping: £10.50)
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DampDog said:
To be truthful I wasn't sure which path to take towards a little bit more performance and longevity. My first thought was to simply buy a better GPU, but my mother board won't even do 6Gb/s on the sata bus, it's limited to 3Gb/s (early board) so that's one potential bottleneck anyway So I think the best way forwards might well be new CPU/Motherboard/memory and soldier on with me current HD6850 and look to swap that next year.

Following 20mins browsing, I thought this combo might do the trick but am open to suggestions.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £515.47 (includes shipping: £10.50)
​
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3200/3000hz is the sweet spot for ryzen, basically in the simplest forms , the cores talk to each other at the speed of the system ram - though some boards can go over 3200- returns in gaming arent shown above 3200

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £207.64 (includes shipping: £8.70)


would personally push 16GB , if needs be cheaper board that will still hit same overclock , 3,7Ghz with stock cooler

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £557.47 (includes shipping: £10.50)​
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orbitalwalsh said:
3200/3000hz is the sweet spot for ryzen, basically in the simplest forms , the cores talk to each other at the speed of the system ram - though some boards can go over 3200- returns in gaming arent shown above 3200
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Cheers that's an interesting little nugget of information. Make sense when you think about it, not that I'm that bright or even research these things that well. 350 chipset looks like it would be more than enough for my needs. Hopefully OCUK will stick some deals on around the Xmas break.
 
DampDog said:
Cheers that's an interesting little nugget of information. Make sense when you think about it, not that I'm that bright or even research these things that well. 350 chipset looks like it would be more than enough for my needs. Hopefully OCUK will stick some deals on around the Xmas break.
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They dropped the Aorus 5 to £150 for black Friday and the gaming 3 has been on sale since , not sure when that ends . Ram might go on but think if they do sales, will be boxing day only.
Can't remember last year's at all
 
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