Swiping before chip and pin?

Zefan · 10 May 2014 at 23:27

Not really anything to worry about - I used to do this when I worked in retail, very common practice and we'd make cloned cards out of the details. It was certainly one of the perks of the job!

[FnG]magnolia · 10 May 2014 at 23:28

I thought this was about Pay Wave before realising that you still had to do the pin number entry part. Presenting your card is a small change to the way we use cards but makes such a difference in terms of time.

Janesy B · 10 May 2014 at 23:29

Check with the store

Storm3y · 11 May 2014 at 00:49

Very strange tbh.

ubersonic · 11 May 2014 at 01:07

wesimmo said:
They used to do it in PC World too, I'm sure.

Almost certain I recall thinking it was odd that a "technology company" had such archaic systems.

It's because till hardware is not designed primarily for the "chip and pin" stuff we use in the UK, you normally need extra software or modules for it (America uses chipless swipe and pin and other EU countries like France use a different type of chip and pin). Some companies haven't yet paid to have the chip and pin stuff fully integrated into their system, some others just do what the OP described for all cards so their staff procedure is the same for UK and non-UK customers.

gothic_hobbit · 11 May 2014 at 02:31

It could be a contactless payment.

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned this possibility.

[FnG]magnolia · 11 May 2014 at 02:41

gothic_hobbit said:
It could be a contactless payment.

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned this possibility.

[FnG]magnolia;26286925 said:
I thought this was about Pay Wave before realising that you still had to do the pin number entry part. Presenting your card is a small change to the way we use cards but makes such a difference in terms of time.

Pay Wave is one of the Scheme solutions (VISA in this case).

iviv · 11 May 2014 at 03:15

gothic_hobbit said:
It could be a contactless payment.

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned this possibility.

I would highly doubt it was contactless if you had to both swipe the card and put it into the pin pad! That's about as much contact as it's possible to have

gothic_hobbit · 11 May 2014 at 04:03

iviv said:
I would highly doubt it was contactless if you had to both swipe the card and put it into the pin pad! That's about as much contact as it's possible to have

Well if the contactless feature failed, you would still have to fall back on chip and pin.

Maybe this is what happened.

smelly_legend · 11 May 2014 at 04:19

skimmed. the magnetic strip is for atm

Turambar · 11 May 2014 at 06:00

Old pre chip and pin system with a chip and pin handset hacked onto it. Probably.

Droolinggimp · 11 May 2014 at 06:09

Don't think its much to worry about. In Morrisons our C&P readers went down and the operators had to swipe on the till and you still had to put the card in the C&P reader to enter your pin number. The readers just didn't allow for a transaction but the card can still be verified in the machine.

Rich_L · 11 May 2014 at 06:13

Did he swipe the side of the card you were previously holding? Most likely he was obtaining a DNA swab and your clone is in the process of accelerated reproduction ready to take your place when the signal comes.

badcompany · 11 May 2014 at 07:25

Ring your bank asap

Cosimo · 11 May 2014 at 07:31

Zefan said:
Not really anything to worry about - I used to do this when I worked in retail, very common practice and we'd make cloned cards out of the details. It was certainly one of the perks of the job!

uchuff · 11 May 2014 at 07:37

Local Halfords did this up until very recently, I just figured old till tech.

xxalxx · 11 May 2014 at 07:58

nothing unusual, done all the time here.

When we were back in the UK last year, even though we have chip and pin cards we still had to swipe and sign when buying anything in the UK, then got a 15 ft long receipt to tax purposes at the end of it.

Edrof · 11 May 2014 at 08:01

I've had something similar with no problems.

Pawnless Endgame · 11 May 2014 at 20:10

iviv said:
I would highly doubt it was contactless if you had to both swipe the card and put it into the pin pad! That's about as much contact as it's possible to have

Agreed, swipe + PIN definitely isn't contactless!

mhvcbv said:
A few shops around here have it now(scan with no pin)

Swipe only, then yes, that would be contactless. It's the same principle as NFC on a phone. On your card, look out for a beacon symbol, looks a bit like the wi-fi logo - that means it's contactless. It works for transactions up to £20. Weatherspoons pub chain is the 1st example that springs to mind that offers contactless.

M3G4UK · 12 May 2014 at 14:48

I doubt it's anything to worry about. Used to do it when I worked in retail as the till units were too dumb to acknowledge chip and pin.