I personally think thats one of the issues right there. Some people want top have all the bells, whistles and eye candy, whereas others are quite happy to reduce settings a bit to get acceptable performance. Myself, if I have to reduce settings a bit then thats fine with me personally. Either situation is valid imo.
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Switching from NVIDIA to AMD..some questions.
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I personally think thats one of the issues right there. Some people want top have all the bells, whistles and eye candy, whereas others are quite happy to reduce settings a bit to get acceptable performance. Myself, if I have to reduce settings a bit then thats fine with me personally. Either situation is valid imo.
What about people going from 1080 to 1440 while using a single 970? I've posted in the "other" thread that I've just ordered the BenQ BL2710PT monitor at 1440. I was going to do this anyway, just did it sooner rather than later. I really want to see for myself what the issues are gonna be, if any, and how far I'll have to reduce settings. I personally think, from what I've read here, that 970 Sli is a no go due to the issues, either real or perceived, and also not everyone can afford to buy 2 x 970 or 2 x 290x for Sli/ Xfire.
What I am hoping for, and this is in the lap of the Gods, is the 970 performs as well at 1440 as did my old 7950 running at 1080 using the same in game settings which totally adequate for my needs and overall ran quite well, in Crysis 3 that is.
Well I'm at 1440p now with a single 970. I can't say I've encountered many issues, but I have not pushed my card to its limit. SLI was always my plan, but no more. I actually think a single 970, for the moment anyway, is fine at 1440p. Just be prepared to notch the details down, and it should run fine. But as newer games are released, GTAV for example, I want to be able to run them without compromising too much... and the SLI route was SUPPOSED to allow me to do that.
Now I'm left with the choice of a 290X 8GB (single or Xfire), a 295X2 or a 980. The latter two are both 4GB though of course, so ultimately I'm not sure that solves the issue long term. I am worried about the prospect of soaring temps and noise with x2 of the 290X cards though, especially in my H440 case. The cost of a new case (£100+) seems a bit excessive when I only bought this one 2 months ago. I guess I could just remove all my side panels lol!
Now I'm left with the choice of a 290X 8GB (single or Xfire), a 295X2 or a 980. The latter two are both 4GB though of course, so ultimately I'm not sure that solves the issue long term. I am worried about the prospect of soaring temps and noise with x2 of the 290X cards though, especially in my H440 case. The cost of a new case (£100+) seems a bit excessive when I only bought this one 2 months ago. I guess I could just remove all my side panels lol!
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Why can't you use DSR to set the res at 1440p and see how it performs? The performance with DSR is essentially the same as actually running at the higher resolutions including 4K.
Well I'm running at 2 x DSR atm.
I'm sure I would, especially as I have the 970 Reference, and I cannot fault it in that sense. My case is cool inside and no issues with temps anywhere. That said, at this time of the year I don't think it's a major concern... in the summer though, it could be. What 290 did you have?
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The thing is...Nvidia will most likely be releasing Titan first rather than high-end mainstream cards. If you are not spending £1K on the Titan, you'd still have to wait quite a while for Nvidia's flagship mainstream cards.
Sapphire Tri-X. The model itself doesn't make much difference though. The power eventually ends up as heat no matter how efficient or not your GPU cooler is. Just happens that as mine was a very good GPU cooler it happened quickly.
It was quite uncomfortable in summer.
Yup, I'm the same. Credit would be fine if new cards were a month away. I have a 670 4GB card I could use in the interim... but 3-4 months is a stretch!
And they're supposed to be amongst the better coolers, so that's concerning. The Vapor-X is better I have heard, but they're more expensive.
Aftermarket 290 there is no heat issues; crossfire frame pacing is better than Nvidias....
750w psu might be only issue.....Matt could chime more on that; as you'd be near max on it; 1050w would sort it easily......
Honestly the stuttering on the 970s isn't going to get better as more games come out 2015; it will only get worse as you hit the ram wall more and more......
the answer then is to look at the new range from AMD providing theres sufficient Vram
They are one of the better coolers but as I say the cooler doesn't make a difference except to the running temp of this card. The running temp isn't important it's the amount of heat being removed by the cooler from the GPU (and subsequently into your case/room) that's important. And as they use a lot of power, that equals a lot of heat. Good cards mind with that caveat.
I was actually having that discussion with Matt in another thread, and he said my 850W EVGA G2 would be enough, given the headroom that these higher quality PSU's have. I am not sure about a 750W though probably depends on model.
I see. That makes sense, and it's why I bought a 970 Reference for my H440. I'd be rather concerned about the amount of heat being dumped in to my case from one 290X, nevermind two of them! I have got good fans in my case that I swapped the stock ones out for, but still, I have a feeling it would struggle, especially in the summer.
I did but some people have been alright with it. I guess it depends on your expectations. Good fans will just equal heating up your room quicker as the heat is removed more quickly. You can't escape the heat from the power it draws. It's a compromise you make when getting one but as I say some people don't mind or notice.
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1) Reference Vs reference card AMD isn't as good but reference design 290's are hard to come by and 3rd party designs like the one from XFX are very quiet even at at 100% load.
2) It's 2015 not 2002 both set of drivers from both companies are very capable.
3) A 750 watt PSU is pushing it but you should be ok.
4) Microstutter is always a problem with multiple card setups regardless of who's cards you use but they do tend to get fixed in driver updates and it's a lot better then it has been historically.
5) You should see a performance improvement. As you have already stated your 970's are already hitting 4Gb in some games which is an issue for the GTX970 in particular. You may have seen news articles that the only has 3.5Gb of ram that runs at the advertised speeds the remaining 0.5Gb runs a lot slower which could potentially impact performance you don't get that BS on a 290.