Symbian 3 + Nokia N8 = WOW!

Phone looks great i think, much nicer then the quite plane looking htc's etc but unless sym3 is great then i'll go htc android.

A lot of none tech peeps buy things just on looks, so I'm sure they will sell plenty of this phone.
 
Phone looks ok but 3 things certainly let it down for me:

1: 640x360 res? C'mon thats just too low by todays standards
2: Still no portrait qwerty keyboard as standard.
3: Its still the beating heart of Symbian S60 5th and looks virtually the same.

Add to that the fact you'll have to live with Nokia's OVI store for apps which is woefully bad at best and I'll be avoiding for sure.

On the plus side multi-tasking looks good, as does the media side of things but that ruddy OS...ergh.!
 
Robboftw said:
Symbian is poor, everything is rectangular for starters, it was the same on Maemo too, it looks horrible.

It is simply not as good as Android, or iOS. My opinion, yes, but one that most people will share.
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I actually sold my HTC Hero and replaced it with the Nokia N900, as Android was doing my head in. I much prefer Maemo to Android, but yeah.. It does seem I'm in the minority.. Just thought I'd pop up and show there are people that aren't too fond of Android. :p
 
In my opinion, symbian is below par overall, from a user experience point of view; as in ease of use, speed, and overall design. However, the main downfall is in the applications, where iPhones have shined, and where Android is now doing the same, is in the vast amount of applications all in one, easy to find and install place.
Don't get me wrong, symbian has a lot of apps, but they're hard to find, and just not up to the same quality as the ones being produced on other platforms. After owning a lot of symbian powered phones, and having to sign apps/hack the phone just to install half of them, I can see why it's failing now where is strong competition.

The N8 itself, hardware wise looks quite nice, I like the design, and good camera/video capacity is a big plus to me. However, I just couldn't buy another symbian phone unless there were dramatic changes, which I've yet to see. If the phone ran android, I'd be all over it!
 
[Cas];17191518 said:
I actually sold my HTC Hero and replaced it with the Nokia N900, as Android was doing my head in. I much prefer Maemo to Android, but yeah.. It does seem I'm in the minority.. Just thought I'd pop up and show there are people that aren't too fond of Android. :p
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I also changed my HTC Hero for an N900 :p

The N900 is great in a quirky way but it was never going to be a mainstream success.

Try a Desire and your perception of Android may change, its a huge step up from the Hero in my opinion!
 
Robboftw said:
I also changed my HTC Hero for an N900 :p

The N900 is great in a quirky way but it was never going to be a mainstream success.

Try a Desire and your perception of Android may change, its a huge step up from the Hero in my opinion!
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I tried the Desire, which is what made my mind up on buying the N900. I don't really know what I don't like about Android.. But there is something.
 
DAnDan said:
However, the main downfall is in the applications, where iPhones have shined, and where Android is now doing the same, is in the vast amount of applications all in one, easy to find and install place.
Don't get me wrong, symbian has a lot of apps, but they're hard to find, and just not up to the same quality as the ones being produced on other platforms. After owning a lot of symbian powered phones, and having to sign apps/hack the phone just to install half of them, I can see why it's failing now where is strong competition.
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The biggest problem was that writing apps for Symbian was very tough. The frameworks weren't really suited to application development and the S60 APIs were a total mess with little documentation.

However, that's all changing with the N8. The N8 is the first Symbian phone to ship with the new Qt application framework pre-installed. Qt is very simple to use and makes writing attractive user interfaces very easy. Personally, I prefer Qt to both Android's Dalvik and iOS's Cocoa. It's more powerful than Dalvik and less weird than Cocoa.

Also, Nokia's Ovi app store used to be a joke. It used to cost thousands of pounds to get your application listed on it as they refused to take submissions from individuals. It's recently been cut to a one-time fee of €49. Nokia are playing catch-up but they're moving in the right direction and the number and quality of apps will accelerate greatly once the N8 is released. I've certainly got a few things in the pipeline. :p
 
I don't get why they put such a good camera and video camera then put such a poor low quality screen on it, when you have used a high quality screen they just look awful anything lower, when i look at the original iphone 3g/3gs(friends have them) the difference in the I4's screen i have is major, for me it needed to be the same spec screen as the Desire for example..
 
[Cas];17185823 said:
I'd say Nokia make most of their money on the cheaper handsets, that are made to make calls and send texts. And I don't think that share of the market is going anywhere, any time soon.
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Yes nokia do make the money on the lower end phones. No doubt about that.

But on the bigger scale. If they want to compete with android/apple os... Then they need to really start thinking about scrapping the Symbian 60 series.

Yes i have owned many Symbian phones. But it's always the same ol. Nokia app store is just horrible. Like O Rly?
 
alexthecheese said:
After owning a Samsung i8910 with Symbian I am never going to buy a Samsung phone, or a phone with Symbian.
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My Symbian Samsung INNOV8 makes me weep. It takes ages to do even the simplest of tasks and put me off the OS totally and makes me reluctant to consider Samsung phones again.

Watching that video I noticed when he tried to bring up a menu and there was a little spinning circle for a second or so - not ages admittedly, but it doesn't seem to happen with the smartphones I've seen on other platforms.
 
mulpsmebeauty said:
My Symbian Samsung INNOV8 makes me weep. It takes ages to do even the simplest of tasks and put me off the OS totally and makes me reluctant to consider Samsung phones again.

Watching that video I noticed when he tried to bring up a menu and there was a little spinning circle for a second or so - not ages admittedly, but it doesn't seem to happen with the smartphones I've seen on other platforms.
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Well Samsung have done something right with their galaxy range, thats for sure :)
 
The Desire is a AMOLED screen with higher resolution and galaxy s has a SUPER AMOLED screen but i would still take the higher resolution tft screen from my iphone 4 looks way better nice sharp text no matter how small you put it on the internet for example, just seems to me Nokia these days are playing catch up.
 
I said the same thing until i fired up the Iphone 4 and saw what a difference the resolution made, i even had a debate over it with someone in the galaxy s forum as i had this phone at the time and he had the Iphone 4 and I said i would prefer the led screen and he said what i am saying now big difference.

Me bro has a galaxy s and i was flashing it for him the other day and I wouldn't go back i could see the difference in resolution using it.
 
was nothing massively wrong with old symbian tbh... just looking dated and lack of games and customizing. but does the normal phone buyer even care about stuff like that ? have plenty of mates with satios and 5800s who couldn't give a crap about the OS. aslong as they can text/make calls/browse/take pics they are sorted
 
I doubt the normal phone buyer would get phones like these though they would use phones you have listed, people who buy these sort of phones want a bit more out of them.
 
IT will be compared against them all won't it Desire/Galaxy S/Xperia X10/ iphone, that's what it will be going against and it won't come in that cheap the retail has been hinted at around £470 game actually had it up for £450 sim free until its release date slipped too October time.
 
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