System For Photo editing

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Hi guys

I need to build a system for photo editing. any suggestions 1k budget +/-300

I would normally be fine to spec one, but its been 2 years since the last build and ive lost track of component progress.

Ideally 120/240 SSD + tons of storage.

Thanks for the help
 
Hi guys

I need to build a system for photo editing. any suggestions 1k budget +/-300

I would normally be fine to spec one, but its been 2 years since the last build and ive lost track of component progress.

Ideally 120/240 SSD + tons of storage.

Thanks for the help

The applications you want to run are probably the most memory intensive program's out there.
You don't mention RAM in your specs, it's probably the most important factor.
 
 
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You can get a 120Hz monitor into budget but you would be lowering components and I just don't think the benefit is worth it (I have one).

I think the main benefit is for fast-paced gaming and the movement is smoother. I'll give you an idea of the spec with a 120Hz monitor in.


By going with 120Hz monitor:


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I'd go for something similar to the top spec tho tbh......
 
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I see people are wasting £150-£230 on graphics cards here. Photo editing can be done perfectly adequately on even internal graphics cards - there is much better use you can make of your money if you're building a photography rig.

Key for photo editing is processor, then RAM/SSD, then graphics. You'd be fine with a system based on an overclocked i5 (you rarely see the benefit of the hyperthreading in the i7 for photography) a £50-£70 graphics card (I'm perfectly happy with a silent GT450 running 2x 24" monitors at 1920x1200 each here and I saw little improvement in real world usage moving up from a 9600GTS which died) and a decent IPS monitor (Dell U2410 for example).

Depending on what software you use and how many photos you have, it may also be worth investing in two SSDs, one for the system, one for your photos. It's surprising how much disk I/O something like Lightroom does when you're browsing your images...
 
I see people are wasting £150-£230 on graphics cards here. Photo editing can be done perfectly adequately on even internal graphics cards - there is much better use you can make of your money if you're building a photography rig.

Key for photo editing is processor, then RAM/SSD, then graphics. You'd be fine with a system based on an overclocked i5 (you rarely see the benefit of the hyperthreading in the i7 for photography) a £50-£70 graphics card (I'm perfectly happy with a silent GT450 running 2x 24" monitors at 1920x1200 each here and I saw little improvement in real world usage moving up from a 9600GTS which died) and a decent IPS monitor (Dell U2410 for example).

Depending on what software you use and how many photos you have, it may also be worth investing in two SSDs, one for the system, one for your photos. It's surprising how much disk I/O something like Lightroom does when you're browsing your images...

I had already told him about the GPU being overkill. I'd still get the i7 as you never know what you might end up doing task-wise...
 
I see people are wasting £150-£230 on graphics cards here. Photo editing can be done perfectly adequately on even internal graphics cards - there is much better use you can make of your money if you're building a photography rig.

Key for photo editing is processor, then RAM/SSD, then graphics. You'd be fine with a system based on an overclocked i5 (you rarely see the benefit of the hyperthreading in the i7 for photography) a £50-£70 graphics card (I'm perfectly happy with a silent GT450 running 2x 24" monitors at 1920x1200 each here and I saw little improvement in real world usage moving up from a 9600GTS which died) and a decent IPS monitor (Dell U2410 for example).

Depending on what software you use and how many photos you have, it may also be worth investing in two SSDs, one for the system, one for your photos. It's surprising how much disk I/O something like Lightroom does when you're browsing your images...

Photoshop has graphic acceleration with nvidia cards so check adobes site for qualifying cards, it does speed process up..... a lot

8 gigs or the best ram is in the budget: open to suggestions

8GB is fine but you WILL notice considerable difference with 16+, you can change the amount of ram that PS uses in the settings, more ram is better

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I had already told him about the GPU being overkill. I'd still get the i7 as you never know what you might end up doing task-wise...

CS6 uses multi threaded cpus like a b***h, i7 is better than i5 for PS
 
Photoshop has graphic acceleration with nvidia cards so check adobes site for qualifying cards, it does speed process up..... a lot
PS6 is starting to introduce graphic acceleration for images, but everything before that (including Lightroom) only uses 2D OpenGL for zooming, panning and rotating images. It doesn't matter what graphics card you have as long as it is current and does basic OpenGL. I've tested it on a 9600GT, 450GT in my 2600K desktop and noticed no difference, I've also tested it on a 525 and i7-integrated graphics on a laptop and it is fine. Certainly very, very usable (and I work with Canon 5D2 raw images that are 21Mpix in size).

Looking at the PS faq for CS6 (http://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/photoshop-cs6-gpu-faq.html) it introduces the following graphics accelerations:

Adobe said:
  • Adaptive Wide Angle Filter (compatible video card required)
  • Liquify (accelerated by compatible video card with 512 MB of VRAM)
  • Oil Paint (compatible video card required)
  • Warp and Puppet Warp (accelerated by compatible video card)
  • Field Blur, Iris Blur, and Tilt/Shift (accelerated by compatible video
    card supporting OpenCL)
  • Lighting Effects Gallery (compatible video card required with 512 MB
    of VRAM)
  • New 3D enhancements (3D features in Photoshop require a compatible video card with 512 MB of VRAM):
    • Draggable Shadows
    • Ground plane reflections
    • Roughness
    • On-canvas user interface controls
    • Ground plane
    • Light widgets on edge of canvas
    • IBL (image-based light) controller
Those are what I'd call graphic design functions - I certainly don't use them much for photography. I'd wait for CS7 before I'd worry about a fast graphics card unless I made use of the above a lot.

Always assuming the OP is using Photoshop products of course ;)


8GB is fine but you WILL notice considerable difference with 16+, you can change the amount of ram that PS uses in the settings, more ram is better
This will depend on your usage model. Lightroom 4 is limited in the memory it uses (I've never got it to go above 2G on an x64 install). PS is more memory hungry, but if you only have a few images open at any one time, the 8-16G will mostly be sat used as a disk cache and not in real use. I would agree it is better to spend £40 on memory over an extra £40 on graphics cards ;)



CS6 uses multi threaded cpus like a b***h, i7 is better than i5 for PS
There are very few operations that take any length of time in Photoshop given the speed of todays machines. When I've benchmarked my PS installation in both 4 core (BIOS disable hyperthreading) or 8 core mode I get 10-15% better performance on the (heavily automated) benchmarks. In real life, where the CPU is spending most of the time waiting for your input, your workflow is unlikely to be any faster with an i7. It's another £70 to spend elsewhere (like on a decent IPS monitor hint hint ;))
 
You deffinitely want an IPS monitor for photo editing, which rules 120hz out. The U2412M is good value for money. It's more less full SRGB, and you'll also need to add some colour calibration (Spyder 4 Pro). Alternatively the U2410 will give you full ARGB, but that can be a whole new can of worms.

Are you looking at Photoshop CS6, or Elements? If it's Elements, you won't benefit from GPU acceleration (and won't notice a difference with >8gb).

120gb SSD is great for OS. I'd be inclined to play it safe and go for either the Samsung 830 or the Corsair Performance Pro. For storage, options are either a single drive or RAID. If you're talking pro editing, RAID1 is a safe option but you might want to consider RAID 0 for performance.
 
For storage, options are either a single drive or RAID.
I've just put a second (256G) SSD in my editing system and run all my current photos off there. I also use it and the OS drive as scratch/cache drives. Performance is massively improved in all I/O operations I do - browsing images in Lightroom is way faster.
 
PS6 is starting to introduce graphic acceleration for images, but everything before that (including Lightroom) only uses 2D OpenGL for zooming, panning and rotating images. It doesn't matter what graphics card you have as long as it is current and does basic OpenGL. I've tested it on a 9600GT, 450GT in my 2600K desktop and noticed no difference, I've also tested it on a 525 and i7-integrated graphics on a laptop and it is fine. Certainly very, very usable (and I work with Canon 5D2 raw images that are 21Mpix in size).

Looking at the PS faq for CS6 (http://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/photoshop-cs6-gpu-faq.html) it introduces the following graphics accelerations:


Those are what I'd call graphic design functions - I certainly don't use them much for photography. I'd wait for CS7 before I'd worry about a fast graphics card unless I made use of the above a lot.

Always assuming the OP is using Photoshop products of course ;)


This will depend on your usage model. Lightroom 4 is limited in the memory it uses (I've never got it to go above 2G on an x64 install). PS is more memory hungry, but if you only have a few images open at any one time, the 8-16G will mostly be sat used as a disk cache and not in real use. I would agree it is better to spend £40 on memory over an extra £40 on graphics cards ;)



There are very few operations that take any length of time in Photoshop given the speed of todays machines. When I've benchmarked my PS installation in both 4 core (BIOS disable hyperthreading) or 8 core mode I get 10-15% better performance on the (heavily automated) benchmarks. In real life, where the CPU is spending most of the time waiting for your input, your workflow is unlikely to be any faster with an i7. It's another £70 to spend elsewhere (like on a decent IPS monitor hint hint ;))

fair points but i would rather have those items in place, for the future. Fair point on the IPS monitor!

when im working at my frinds who has a quad core, 8gb amd gpu and im on my 17, 16gb nvidia gpu laptop, i get things done in half the time........ just saying
 
when im working at my frinds who has a quad core, 8gb amd gpu and im on my 17, 16gb nvidia gpu laptop, i get things done in half the time........ just saying

that means nothing without accurate specs.

i would go with what arad85 said though, CPU then SSD and/or RAM. gfx is way down the list.
 
Thanks again, its for my father who does use all the photoshop products, and lightroom ect. Was looking at the IPS moniters: LCD OR LED? i would have thought LED surely? DGM 27inch or or ASUS VG23AH 23 inch?
 
i would go with what arad85 said though, CPU then SSD and/or RAM. gfx is way down the list.

He's got the budget for everything though.

Big SSD, storage drive, i7 CPU CPU cooler, overclock the hell out of it and a GPU that will not only help his graphical tasks but also allow him to play games should he ever want to. He's been told that something like the 560Ti or 570 or 580 is overkill and if he wants to save some cash he can drop that off - that should have been the end of it?
 
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