Systems and Art
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I'd agree with that!! Systems built by enthusiasts or modders are very much like art in my eyes......"Art is never finished, only abandoned" Leonardo da Vinci 
I look forward to seeing how this thread pans out
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Do you find that systems can be an artwork? No matter of the specification, but the looks of some systems can be absolutely amazing. What is your favourite looking system you have seen? Post images here!
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a very subjective view I would say. while the core elements are down to good design, it's the end user/system builders own touch that can make a good system a 'work of art'-imaginative cable management, colour combinations, case modding all can add to making any pc almost totally unique.
and if that brings joy to those who view it or use it i'd say they can very easily be classed as art.
personally I'd rather go and visit a display of well built, unique pc systems than a pile of mouldy paintings hanging on a museum wall
a very subjective view I would say. while the core elements are down to good design, it's the end user/system builders own touch that can make a good system a 'work of art'-imaginative cable management, colour combinations, case modding all can add to making any pc almost totally unique.
and if that brings joy to those who view it or use it i'd say they can very easily be classed as art.
personally I'd rather go and visit a display of well built, unique pc systems than a pile of mouldy paintings hanging on a museum wall
Just because you prefer it doesn't make it art. Art isn't the highest plane of aesthetic being, it is an entity of its own. There are incredible pieces of design and human ingenuity that I wouldn't hesitate to say isn't anything like art. There is a purpose behind art which doesn't exist elsewhere in life, and I don't think that pc building fits that. And your middle line could very well be said about naughty videos and I certainly wouldn't class that an art.
Does system design intend to make us think? Does it provide any sort of commentary? Is it shaped by the world around us and the artist's vision? It's very clever and skillful, yes, but I wouldn't say it approaches anything like art.
does art have to make us think, does it have to provide any sort of commentary? surely art can just be appreciated for what it is, a thing of beauty?
by it's simplest definition
noun
1 [mass noun] the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power
sometimes that's where folks can become 'lost' when it comes to art....'it isn't saying anything to me therefore it can't be art'...nonsense. art doesn't have to provoke commentary or make people think. that is for the middle classes turtle neck pullover wearing crowd to believe
appreciate art for what it is, a thing of beauty and passion. and who of is to say that one mans passion isn't art?
by it's simplest definition
noun
1 [mass noun] the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power
sometimes that's where folks can become 'lost' when it comes to art....'it isn't saying anything to me therefore it can't be art'...nonsense. art doesn't have to provoke commentary or make people think. that is for the middle classes turtle neck pullover wearing crowd to believe
appreciate art for what it is, a thing of beauty and passion. and who of is to say that one mans passion isn't art?
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does art have to make us think, does it have to provide any sort of commentary? surely art can just be appreciated for what it is, a thing of beauty?
by it's simplest definition
noun
1 [mass noun] the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power
sometimes that's where folks can become 'lost' when it comes to art....'it isn't saying anything to me therefore it can't be art'...nonsense. art doesn't have to provoke commentary or make people think. that is for the middle classes turtle neck pullover wearing crowd to believe
appreciate art for what it is, a thing of beauty and passion. and who of is to say that one mans passion isn't art?
It's much subtler and more nuanced than that. Art absolutely has to say something or be a response to something, on a higher level than "My wires need to go somewhere, so I'm going to put my wires here.". I appreciate it sounds incredibly pretentious, but while some people's skill in pc building may certainly be comparable to artists, that doesn't make it an art form.
As for your beauty definition.
A dawn landscape after a 4 hour trek to get there is beautiful, it is not art.
Charlize Theron is beautiful, she is not art.
Computer cases can be beautiful, they are not art.
Of course I'm talking about fine art, when you start talking about art in general it start becoming a useless phrase because anybody just uses it to mean something that people are good at, which I think is ridiculous.
think we have our wires crossed, all of the above are true, that I am not disputing.
a dawn landscape after a 4 four trek, of course it's beautiful and of course it's not art. but the painter who captures that dawn landscape on canvas has created art-whether or not you or I like their work. he has still created something using their talent, creative skills and passion
if someone takes a run of the mill pc case and again using their talent, creative skills and passion and imagination and modifies into something in which they see beauty surely you must that is the fundamental definition of art?
what I am trying to say, though not very eloquently is that if someone using what ever skills they have at their disposal creates something using passion/imagination or whatever we wish to call it I can't see how that cannot be called art (irrespective of how hideous the rest of world see their creation!)
but I think on this we are going to have to agree to disagree or we could be on here all night lol...so more pics in here please!
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Pgreenwo - TJ07 build, it is gorgeous!
Can a system be art? Yes, yes of course!
There is maybe 20% of it here, the rest is all links to build logs and such
I'll have to pick some pics
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Edit: Need to upload to db, I'll do it mods, don't harass me
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Do you want to define Art? Which is now commonly a word used to define many sub genres or are you are arguing Craftsmen, Artisans and Artists?
Modern or Contemporary art drives me bonkers. 9 times out of 10 anybody could have created the subject matter (I'm looking at you Tracy Emin). The "Artist" and art critics simply talk utter nonsense in order to justify the existence of the piece
For me real art, quite literally comes from Artisans. That is to say a skilled person who crafts something purely decorative (eg a sculpture) or something functional (furntiture etc). However more often than not they craft something that is both functional but also extremely pleasing to the eye......this in turn seperates them from common craftsmen. This is why I quoted Leonardo who I regard as a brilliant Artisan. I'm sure many enthusiasts would agree their system is never finished just abandoned, that is until they're hit with inspiration to make further changes. The more changes they make the more skilled they become
So there is a difference between system builders and modders. At a real stretch we could call some modders Artisans, providing what they create is truly exceptional to the eye. I've waffled enough now lol I'll simply use the phrase "I'm no critic but I know what I like" and now sit back and look at the pretty systems some talented individuals have put together
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