Tables, frames and layers - Web Design

Jakal91 · 14 Jan 2008 at 18:59

I have built a few websites before and i know how to build sites using tables. However i want to learn how to create more advanced sites and need to know what the most commonly used tool for laying out a complicated website is, such as http://www.apple.com/mac/.

I know a lot of people still use tables, but do i want to learn how to use layers or frames? Or are there any other tools i don't know about? I also understand that learning how to build websites like these takes a lot of time but i am willing to spend lots of time learning.

Thanks.

Yeggstry · 14 Jan 2008 at 19:03

http://www.csszengarden.com/ would be a good start to see what is possible, and to download sample source code.

You want to be using divs for layout, tables for tabular data only. Up to you if you want frames, but consider that not everyone can use them browser wise.

Jakal91 · 14 Jan 2008 at 19:07

Thanks. Have heard about divs but forgot all about them, ill take a look at the link.

RandomTom · 14 Jan 2008 at 20:13

You don't really want to be using tables, layers or frames, they're all bad practise tbh. People these days shouldn't be using tables for anything other than tabular data. As has been recommended, you need to start learning CSS as a design platform, as well as semantic HTML.

Follow the tutorials on www.htmldog.com for help, also google around for 'html, css beginner' and you'll find a lot.

Jakal91 · 14 Jan 2008 at 21:12

Thanks, just been messing around with css and seem to be getting the hang of it. Will have a look at that site.

Ross1234 · 14 Jan 2008 at 21:15

i have just perfected the css three column layout. Much simpler thyan on the tutorial sites. I wanted to keep it secret but what is the fun in that? I will post it here if you want.

DarkShadow · 14 Jan 2008 at 21:34

Jakal91 said:
Thanks, just been messing around with css and seem to be getting the hang of it. Will have a look at that site.

Also be sure to check out: http://www.w3schools.com/css/default.asp It's been a very valuable resource for me

I taught myself CSS in a day, and through trial and error, I've partially applied it to my forum for a Uni assignment, which can be seen here: http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17815217&page=3

huppy · 14 Jan 2008 at 21:49

RandomTom said:
You don't really want to be using tables, layers or frames, they're all bad practise tbh.

Nothing wrong with layering div's! Unless, am I missing what layers are?

edit: yes i am! http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=html+layer&btnG=Google+Search&meta=

i withdraw my question