Tablet PC's...

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So it seems they are becoming the "in" thing again (or were they ever really "in" before?) with CES 2010 being awash with them (and Apples possible one). Thing is when I looked at getting one two years ago I was distinctly underwhelmed, they seemed slow, bulky and the screens seemed awful (not to mention ugly). Are they likely to change now if they actually catch on or are they still pointless/niche?

I think the main problem with touch screens on laptops like that is what is the point? The occasional benefit is outweighed by the extra weight and price. Anyone actually have experience using one? What are they actually like?:)

Now on to the future...:p I think for them to properly catch on manufactuers need to stop trying to sell them as Laptops. I have a Desktop for my High performance needs, laptop for my medium travel performance needs but i'm thinking I want a tablet for my relaxing needs. Do away with the keyboard and make a tablet like a HTC Touch HD(2) but bigger.

Something that doesn't fold up and doesn't try to be a laptop, yet doesn't try to be anything else (no camera on the back for example). Just a 12-13" touch screen (1280x800 or even 1680x1050) on the front and about half an inch to an inch thick (so essentially idential size to a pad of paper). Stick a couple of buttons and inputs on the side and wifi inside, voila. I'd love something like that, especially if you could connect it to another screen and use it either as the main computer running the screen or as a touch pad (with the image on the screen) control for the desktop you're using (Wacom have something like this out already but it costs a fortune and can't run the screen, just a glorified graphics tablet). That way you can use it as a touchscreen keyboard and navigation for your HTPC and as a graphics tablet.

The benefit of something like that (over a wacom) is you can then take it with you on trips so you can watch films and surf the net, just with a bigger and better (full colour) screen than a phone or ebook reader. You could even write a word document with an on screen keyboard (but by then you may as well have taken your laptop).

Size wise there would be no real issue as there are already powerful laptops out there that size (XPS 1330 for example) or less powerful net browsers like the Dell Adamo (sp?) and the Macbook Air. Stick a slight extension on the media centre part of W7 and you have the software perfect for it that will pretty much any PC software you can think of.

The question is are manufacturers going to build anuthing like this in the near future or are they going to carry on with the form factor that I don't think works.:)
 
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ii hear the next next htc hd is comming out with multicore cpu's. i've always wanted a touchscreen tablet but the cost and performance wasnt worth it for me.
 
ii hear the next next htc hd is comming out with multicore cpu's. i've always wanted a touchscreen tablet but the cost and performance wasnt worth it for me.

As good as smartphones (and my HD) are they are not really a replacement for a proper computer running a proper OS, the screen isn't big enough for one and they will never have enough storage or power to really play around with. :)
 
No one used a tablet then?

Just looking around it seems they are starting to head in the right direction with the slate format but most seem to be larger PDA/media players rather than proper computers (and apple's possible forthcoming device seems to be just a large iPod Touch with proprietory OS).

Something like that but with proper internals (i5, 256GB HDD and decent integrated graphics) and W7 would be brilliant for Photoshop and even older RTS games for when you get bored. :D
 
I've had a HP tc4400 and a Toshiba Portege M400, both were core 2 duos and plenty quick enough. The real let down has been the OS support. XP Tablet Edition is a bit pants and quite buggy. I haven't tried Windows 7 touch yet but perhaps Apple can shake the market up a bit...
 
How often do you actually use the touch screen on thise machines? TBH they are the sort of machines I was looking at before and never really saw the point. I guess they are useful to a point but the touch screen made them seem more bulky and not to mention expensive. :)

From what I've read about the Apple machine most people seem to think it will come with a closed proprietary OS with an "apps" store so a complete let down. However like the iPhone I'm willing to bet if they do release one they will apparently be the company that invented them...

One I did notice that looked like a step in the right direction (for me at least) is the Archos 9, W7 but small screen and quite poor hardware, more of a W7 running PMP than an actual computer.
 
I have a portege m700, wonderful thing, core 2 duo, 2 gig ram.

Stuck windows 7 on in, miles better than Vista, using onenote, photoshop etc.

Mainly for uni stuff, am on a maths course, kinda hard to do maths notes in word ;)
Makes it a lot easier to keep everything together!
 
I used an old TC4200 for a while, I really liked it tbh.
There are some good third party applications or official MS plugins for XP tablet addition.
For me it was more a novelty, only when I tried it with Vista (which seemed to have decent hand-writing recognition) did it seem far more useful.

I don't do any graphics work though, and I can type faster than I write...
I was recently thinking about picking up another TC4200 just for a laugh but, I need no more gadgets.
Ultra portable laptops are where it's at for me. :)
 
I think tablet PC's are the next evolution of the netbook, 10" screens and mainly used for net surfing etc ...lowinsh power with good battery life, the only problem i can see is price, netbooks took off so well because they were cheap but i cant see tablets being in the £200- £300 price bracket.
 
I think tablet PC's are the next evolution of the netbook, 10" screens and mainly used for net surfing etc ...lowinsh power with good battery life, the only problem i can see is price, netbooks took off so well because they were cheap but i cant see tablets being in the £200- £300 price bracket.

I hope that's not the way they are going to go, small 7-8" one maybe but proper laptop internal for the bigger one for me. Netbooks (especially the 8" ones are pointless IMO, same with a lot of the bigger ones now. However I realise that people who just surf the net don't need all the power of a proper laptop but I do.
 
There are a few details of that Pegatron Tablet pc floating around the net that was shown off at CES 2010 this year. From the single picture/video I've seen it does look pretty sleek and simple with apparantly netbook style specs:

http://www.slashgear.com/pegatron-atom-slate-gets-video-hands-on-0768967/

I've always loved the idea of a tablet PC but I honestly don't think I'd have any use for one...at least not a use that couldn't be covered by an ultraportable notebook or laptop
 
No one used a tablet then?

I have a 2710p as a work tablet. And I use it as a normal laptop. The touch screen is poorly implemented (have to use the pen) and the on screen keyboard is too fidgety. As a laptop it is a bit slow - could really benefit from a SSD instead of its 4200rpm 40GB HDD. The only advantage is it folds up flat with the screen facing upwards which is useful for when moving around places and still need to see the screen.

I like laptops with small screens though.
 
All of the new ones seem to be a cross between a netbook and an e-reader. My guess is they will be for people who want a more stylish e-reader and more functionality, but in the same form factor. My 2 cents.
 
I've just recently got a HP TX2 and I'm loving every second of it :D

The multi touch support within windows 7 is really great, swiping and zooming web pages and photos with easy and fluidity. In addition to this i've installed some Microsoft suface and Natural UI software to show of the 4 finger multi touch support. Two people can draw using paint at the same time! :p
 
I've just recently got a HP TX2 and I'm loving every second of it :D

The multi touch support within windows 7 is really great, swiping and zooming web pages and photos with easy and fluidity. In addition to this i've installed some Microsoft suface and Natural UI software to show of the 4 finger multi touch support. Two people can draw using paint at the same time! :p

How are you finding the fan noise on it?
 
There are a few details of that Pegatron Tablet pc floating around the net that was shown off at CES 2010 this year. From the single picture/video I've seen it does look pretty sleek and simple with apparantly netbook style specs:

http://www.slashgear.com/pegatron-atom-slate-gets-video-hands-on-0768967/

I've always loved the idea of a tablet PC but I honestly don't think I'd have any use for one...at least not a use that couldn't be covered by an ultraportable notebook or laptop

That looks pretty decent and close to what I would be interested in. Stick a larger SSD in for storage (why stick a 32GB one in, yes it's cheap but it will be filled up pretty much by windows on it's own!:confused:) and a couple of gig more RAM (and probably a slightly uprated CPU) and that would be perfect for general day to day travelling use. Similar screen size to my laptop yet much smaller and lighter. £800 ish and I would snap it up.

IMO that is the market (or one of) they should be targetting, who actually needs a proper keyboard most of the time? Companies should be targeting them at people (not necessarily business people) who would otherwise buy an ultraportable laptop as well as a second set who want something a bit better than a phone and ereader.

Doz007 what surface and natural UI software have you installed? Slashgear did make a point about W7 not being the best for touch screen (small icons and such) but as mentioned I bet a lot of manufacturers will create skins for every day touch screen use in the near future. I also think it would be pretty easy for MS to just extend the media centre software a bit to cover a few more everyday things as well.
 
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