taxed online today, drive today?

InvaderGIR · 4 Mar 2011 at 13:50

Old law that has not been changed.

mattyfez · 4 Mar 2011 at 13:59

Do they even issue producers any more? They usually run your plate against the database before they even pull you, so producers are pretty redundant these days surely?

thepeganator · 4 Mar 2011 at 14:12

Sagalout said:
I agree with this.

Fox is absolutely correct legally, but as Souleh says, most bikes don't display the disc as they get nicked. The Police will just check the plate.

It is a risk, but its one I'd take (and do on my bike all the time)

My friends dad has a photocopy on the bike, and then carries the real tax disc in his wallet which he carries whenever he rides anyway.

So if he gets pulled over he has the real one to show the officer

Felix · 4 Mar 2011 at 19:16

I just replaced mine on the bike and it was a soggy mess!

SB118 · 4 Mar 2011 at 21:36

Souleh said:
I cant promise immunity but i'd like to think theres a certain amount of common sense left in the world ( lol )

Not down here there isn't. Bought the tax online on the 29th of January, wife got a "failure to display" FPN slapped on her car on the 2nd.

Print email, write letter, drive to cop shop to deliver letter. Week later she gets a letter saying that after consideration they'll take "no further action" in the matter.

:rolleyes:

chippie · 5 Mar 2011 at 01:01

Section 147 of the Finance Act 2008. Print it and keep it in the car...

Finance Act said:
147Not exhibiting licence: period of grace

In section 33 of VERA 1994 (not exhibiting licence), after subsection (1A) insert—

“(1B)A person is not guilty of an offence under subsection (1) or (1A) by using or keeping a vehicle on a public road during any of the 5 working days following the time when a licence or nil licence for the vehicle, or a relevant declaration applying to the vehicle, ceases to be in force, if an application for a licence or nil licence for or in respect of the vehicle to run from that time has been received before that time.

(1C)In subsection (1B) “working day” means any day other than—

(a)a Saturday or Sunday, or

(b)a day which is Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, Good Friday or a bank holiday under the Banking and Financial Dealings Act 1971 in any part of the United Kingdom.

(1D)For the purposes of subsection (1B)—

(a)there is a relevant declaration applying to a vehicle if the particulars and declaration required to be furnished and made by regulations under section 22(1D) have been furnished and made in relation to the vehicle in accordance with the regulations, and

(b)the relevant declaration ceases to be in force if, after the particulars and declaration have been furnished and made—

(i)the vehicle is used or kept on a public road (otherwise than under a trade licence), or

(ii)the period of 12 months beginning with the day on which the particulars and declaration were furnished and made expires.”

monkey_boy · 5 Mar 2011 at 10:58

godinman said:
It seems silly having to display a tax disk at all, surely they can find out instantly if you're taxes via your reg?

The more things that have to match up on a car, the more effort a criminal has to go to in order to go undetected.
I had a friend who had his locker at the gym emptied and his car stolen. The car was found a month later having overstayed in a parking bay because the tax disc still read his old, personalised reg, but the actual plates had been changed. Traffic warden phoned police, police dealt with it.

duc999 · 5 Mar 2011 at 11:07

I always keep my tax disc in my leathers when out on the bike due to it being nicked so many times. Got pulled once and the copper said 'I don't blame you'

PMKeates · 5 Mar 2011 at 11:14

chippie said:
Section 147 of the Finance Act 2008. Print it and keep it in the car...

But of course, it isn't relevant to the OP, as he doesn't meet the condition of:

Opsi said:
5 working days following the time when a licence or nil licence for the vehicle, or a relevant declaration applying to the vehicle, ceases to be in force, if an application for a licence or nil licence for or in respect of the vehicle to run from that time has been received before that time.

[TW]Fox · 5 Mar 2011 at 11:16

chippie said:
Section 147 of the Finance Act 2008. Print it and keep it in the car...

Why, so you can come across as being as wrong as you are?

I've already explained in this thread, and the legislation you've just quoted also explains, that you need to have applied BEFORE the previous tax runs out.

The OP has not done this.

chippie · 6 Mar 2011 at 01:15

[TW]Fox;18603752 said:
Why, so you can come across as being as wrong as you are?

Wow. I'm sorry for posting the actual legislation rather than a load of 'supposed' opinion.

Where exactly in my post did I refer to the original post?? Oh no, I didn't. It's obvious to me, but I suppose I should have made it a bit clearer that I was replying to the preceeding post by SB118, and being of some use to people who find themselves in a similar situation of either being pulled and not having the new disc, or being able to quote the legislation when in the same situation as SB118's wife. I guess my post being THE VERY NEXT POST isn't celar enough to you, and I most humbly apologise.

For clarification (in case it's not obvious) this post is a reply to that made by [TW]Fox, which is the post directly before mine

Happy now?

[TW]Fox · 6 Mar 2011 at 09:36

chippie said:
Wow. I'm sorry for posting the actual legislation rather than a load of 'supposed' opinion.

Where exactly in my post did I refer to the original post?? Oh no, I didn't.

Rest of silly rant deleted

You posted with no quote at all so the logical assumption is that you are addressing the question in both the OP and the title of this thred. Your answer was, therefore, both wrong and misleading in the context of the original question.

I suggest in future if you wish to address only a single post in the middle of a thread, quote it!