TEAM GROUP XTREEM 4500MHZ C18 with 3rd gen Ryzen?

MPowerph · 3 Aug 2019 at 09:42

Helo guys,

I am very courious about this memory kit.... OCUK says, "ideal for 3rd gen Ryzen". I am currently using the same series modules, a lower frequency model, the 4133MHz XMP rated one, which is working fine in my current system(Maximus XI Apex, 9900K) on 4266C17. You can find the XTREEM 4500 on my Apex board QVL list, so i am hundred percent sure, it would work fine too... I am planning to go for the Ryzen 3. gen, with a high-end X570 board. I have checked the QVL list of some of them, have not seen any of the high frequency Team Group modules yet. Nonetheless, the OCUK website says, it will be good choice for the new gen Ryzen cpu -s, so it looks to me, inconsistent information has been appeared on the website or in the QVL lists.... What do you think?

Smffy · 4 Aug 2019 at 13:23

Zero chance running anywhere near rated speed on Ryzen...

Jamin280672 · 4 Aug 2019 at 13:48

I can overclock my 3600mhz CL18 RAM to 3800mhz CL18 on a RyZen 3 system, and pass every stability test Ive thrown at it, ive tried for 4000mhz, but fail memtest, I think thats a restriction of the RAM though, not the board or CPU, its Hynix based RAM after all, not sure you'd reach 4500mhz, but id image you'd get pretty close to it,

LeMson · 5 Aug 2019 at 10:24

Jamin280672 said:
I can overclock my 3600mhz CL18 RAM to 3800mhz CL18 on a RyZen 3 system, and pass every stability test Ive thrown at it, ive tried for 4000mhz, but fail memtest, I think thats a restriction of the RAM though, not the board or CPU, its Hynix based RAM after all, not sure you'd reach 4500mhz, but id image you'd get pretty close to it,

Stick to 3600 and start lowering the timings

MPowerph · 5 Aug 2019 at 10:25

Smffy said:
Zero chance running anywhere near rated speed on Ryzen...

I am actually planning to downclock the memory for to the highest, and best recommended frequency by the AMD, which is 3733MHz, with the lowest possible timings. I read, it is the ideal... I am hoping at least CAS12 timings on this freq at ~1.6V. I reckon, it would be possible, as my current kit can do CAS14 on this frequency.(it is not good, looks like my kit prefer the high freq instead of the ext. low latency) The Ryzen performs very good with a good ram, there are big increments in every side of the performance data.

MPowerph · 5 Aug 2019 at 10:30

Jamin280672 said:
I can overclock my 3600mhz CL18 RAM to 3800mhz CL18 on a RyZen 3 system, and pass every stability test Ive thrown at it, ive tried for 4000mhz, but fail memtest, I think thats a restriction of the RAM though, not the board or CPU, its Hynix based RAM after all, not sure you'd reach 4500mhz, but id image you'd get pretty close to it,

Yepp, actually i am not intend to reach that high frequency. On my current system it would be easy, my 4133C18 xmp rated ram kit can do 4500C18 on 1.6V, but on Intel platform. It is the 24/7 setup as well, or it can be, i usually stick it onto 4266C17, due it performs almost the same measurements.

I was hoping, somebody has already tried this kit. :rolleyes:

Smffy · 5 Aug 2019 at 11:24

MPowerph said:
I am actually planning to downclock the memory for to the highest, and best recommended frequency by the AMD, which is 3733MHz, with the lowest possible timings. I read, it is the ideal... I am hoping at least CAS12 timings on this freq at ~1.6V. I reckon, it would be possible, as my current kit can do CAS14 on this frequency.(it is not good, looks like my kit prefer the high freq instead of the ext. low latency) The Ryzen performs very good with a good ram, there are big increments in every side of the performance data.

I would be pretty confident you will not be hitting CL12 at that speed on Ryzen mate... You will not see the memory listed on the QVL because it’s speed is far in excess what would be considered ‘guaranteed’ for that platform. Maximum recommended by AMD for the fabric clock would be 1800 which translates to 3600 memory, even so I don’t think you tend to see far over 3200 memory ‘recommended’ or approved on the list due to the complexities of getting it working.

I have the same memory as you, same old board and same new board (ASUs formula) with 3800x. You will likely compromise to CL16 timings or 14-16-16 at 3600 for stability, I’m planning to push up fabric clock as close to 1900/3800 mem clock as possible.

CL12 will error like crazy at that speed, your kit doesn’t prefer high speed over tight timings it prefers lower timings in order to hit that clock speed.

hyperseven · 5 Aug 2019 at 12:01

This was upped yesterday and might be worth a watch

Jamin280672 · 5 Aug 2019 at 13:37

MPowerph said:
Yepp, actually i am not intend to reach that high frequency. On my current system it would be easy, my 4133C18 xmp rated ram kit can do 4500C18 on 1.6V, but on Intel platform. It is the 24/7 setup as well, or it can be, i usually stick it onto 4266C17, due it performs almost the same measurements.

I was hoping, somebody has already tried this kit.

On a different note, CL18 3800mhz with the IF at 1900mhz made absolutely no difference in performance to CL18 3600mhz with the IF at 1800mhz, except maybe 10 points different in cinebench, thats with the IF at a 1 to 1 ratio, anything higher than 3800mhz and you have to set th IF at 2 to 1, so 4000mhz ram IF set to 1000mhz, therefore performing about the same as 3600mhz ram, anything over 3600mhz I've found in testing just isn't worth it, it requires massive amounts of extra voltage generating extra heat.

Besty · 5 Aug 2019 at 17:06

Blimey 8packs been busy, didn’t see this kit, now i am getting unclean thoughts about blowing my weekend lager budget and buying some.

middle aged man shakes fist at phone screen on train.....

Silent_Scone · 6 Aug 2019 at 13:24

4500 possible with the right modules, CPU and board. Gains beyond 3700 are negliable due to FCLK topping out at 1800MHz. As stipulated elsewhere, sticking to a 1:1 ratio is key.