Terror Plot Foiled

The Met's Deputy Assistant Commissioner Peter Clarke told journalists that bomb making equipment, including chemicals and electrical components, had been found during the investigation into the alleged plot.

He added that a number of video recordings known as "martyrdom videos" had also been recovered.

He also mentioned they've seized 400PC's and have d/l 6TB of data and 200 mobiles.

Edit They've also seized 8,000 computer media items such as memory sticks, CDs and DVDs
 
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Borris said:
They should have them hanged for that alone.

Or was that the FBI and the Asian fellas that purchased 'phones from WalMart?
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Yep though now they've dropped all terrorism charges and are only pursuing them for fraud(?)
 
Over Clocker said:
What's happened to all the people who said this was all a mistake and they will all get released without charge??
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I was all a conspiracy don’t forget. Just because there are martyrdom tapes and everything, its clearly a plot aimed at damaging the reputation of Islamic communities :rolleyes:

Does anybody else think that failed suicide bomber martyrdom tapes will make just the best evidence ever in court?
 
fini said:
people might also want to read this thread, which has certainly thrown a new light on things for me.

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Regardless of whether their plan would have worked, surely intent is as much justification for conviction? If i attack a man with a blunt plastic knife with the intent to kill him is it not as much of a crime as with a sabatier?
 
Locrian said:
Regardless of whether their plan would have worked, surely intent is as much justification for conviction? If i attack a man with a blunt plastic knife with the intent to kill him is it not as much of a crime as with a sabatier?
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I think you have to be very careful with that one... I find it easy to believe there are hundreds of disenfranchised, disaffected, angry young men in this country who would love to blow aeroplanes out of the sky - but I find it very hard to believe they actually have the ability or balls to do anything. So should we lock these guys up and throw away the key? I'd say not.
 
clv101 said:
I think you have to be very careful with that one... I find it easy to believe there are hundreds of disenfranchised, disaffected, angry young men in this country who would love to blow aeroplanes out of the sky - but I find it very hard to believe they actually have the ability or balls to do anything. So should we lock these guys up and throw away the key? I'd say not.
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But we are not talking about the mutterings of the angry but of people who've gone beyond that and actively conspired with each other to bring about this end. They've researched their goal, planned actions, possibly tested devices/reactions, recorded suicide notes. Thats way beyond being angry.

Also I don't think there plan needs to be achievable to bring about conviction merely that the jury believe that the conspirators thought it would work.
 
Locrian said:
Regardless of whether their plan would have worked, surely intent is as much justification for conviction? If i attack a man with a blunt plastic knife with the intent to kill him is it not as much of a crime as with a sabatier?
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actually in your example they would be seperate crimes, but that's neither here nor there (just a bad example lol).

I didn't post the link to say that they may be sentenced any differently - it just shines a different light on proceedings - and implies that perhaps we don't know as much about what was actually planned as we think.

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More time for terror probe police

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More time for terror probe police

Police have been given more time to quiz nine suspects held over an alleged plot to blow up transatlantic jets.

Eight suspects can be held for another seven days. Police have until Thursday evening to quiz the ninth, named as Umair Hussain, 24, from east London.

Two people were released without charge at 1920 BST and 2300 BST on Wednesday evening, Scotland Yard confirmed. Eleven other suspects, who have been charged, appeared in court in London on Tuesday and were remanded in custody.

Strong Law

Tim Rustem, lawyer for Umair Hussain, said he was glad the High Court judge had only granted police 24 hours to question his client, saying the case against him was "circumstantial".

He said new anti-terrorism laws were "strong" and were "effectively a check on the investigative powers" of the police. It's good to see the High Court judge being able to differentiate between different cases."

Umair Hussain's brother, 23-year-old Mehran Hussain, has already been charged in relation to the investigation.
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So far of the 25 arrested over this plot 11 have ben charged 5 released without charge and 9 are still being questioned.

Its also the first time suspects have been detained under the 2006 act for more than 14 days and the high court Judge did differentiate between the suspects still in custody.
 
Umair Hussain who the Judge yesterday ordered he be detained for questioning only for a further 25 hours has been charged.
Sky News
Umair Hussain is accused under the Terrorism Act 2000 of failing to disclose information about his brother Nabeel.[previously charged with conspiracy to murder and preparing acts of terrorism]

The alleged offence is contrary to section 38b(1)(a) and (2) of the Act.
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This now makes 12 charged, 8 still being questioned and 5(?) released without charge
 
Britain freezes Muslim charity

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Britain freezes Muslim charity

A CHARITY at the centre of concerns over the funding of the alleged terrorist plot to attack trans-Atlantic aircraft has had its assets frozen.

The Charity Commission is investigating the activities of Crescent Relief, which raised large sums from British Muslims for the humanitarian operation after the earthquake in Kashmir last October.

The inquiry follows the revelation that one of the men arrested at High Wycombe, a town near London, in connection with the alleged plot was a fundraiser for the charity.

It has also emerged that a co-founder of the charity was Abdul Rauf, from Birmingham, whose son Rashid is in custody in Pakistan, where the authorities claim that he is a "key figure" in the conspiracy. Another of Mr Rauf's sons, Tayib, 22, was arrested before being released without charge.

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Addressing the freeze on the Crescent Relief's accounts, Kenneth Dibble, the director of legal and charity services at the commission, said: "We are working with law enforcement agencies to get to the bottom of allegations of possible terrorist abuse of Crescent Relief funds.

"The allegations made are very serious, and we are taking this action to protect the charity's funds while the investigation is under way. At this early stage in such a complex and sensitive investigation, it is difficult to say how long our inquiry may take."

As a temporary measure, the commission said it had frozen the bank accounts of the charity. Funds now cannot be used by the charity without the commission's consent.
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Charity Commision Press Release here

Can't find any mention of this on the BBC site
 
Britain Requests Suspect

Sky News

Britain has requested the extradition of a UK terror suspect from Pakistan over a murder in 2002, Sky News has learnt.
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Not only is Rashid Rauf suspected of masterminding this plot with the help of a charity run by his father but he's a suspect in the 2002 murder of his uncle.
 
Three more charged over 'bomb plot'

BBC

Mohammed Shamin Uddin and Mohammed Yasar Gulzar were charged with conspiracy to murder and intending to smuggle explosives onto aircraft late on Tuesday, hours after Nabeel Hussain was charged with the same offences.

All three are due to appear at City of Westminster Magistrates' Court on Wednesday, Scotland Yard said.

Police are also questioning five other people held after a series of raids in London, Birmingham and High Wycombe. Officers have until Wednesday to question the five, after which time they may charge or release them or apply for a further extension.

This now makes 15 charged, 5 still being questioned and 5(?) released without charge
 
Sky News

Two men will appear in court today charged in connection with an alleged plot to blow up aeroplanes.

Donald Stewart Whyte, 21, from High Wycombe, Bucks, will appear before City of Westminster Magistrates Court charged with preparing acts of terrorism under the Terrorism Act 2006. He is also charged with three firearms offences.

Mohammed Saddique, 24, from Walthamstow, east London, was also charged with preparing acts of terrorism under the Terrorism Act 2006 and will appear before the same court.

Three other men were released without charge by police following questioning.
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This now makes 17 charged, 2(?) still being questioned and 8(?) released without charge.

All of the original 24 have now been charge or released.

So next stop trial, which is provisionally scheduled for easter 2008
 
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