Testing used gpus

[SkeeterUK]

Was thinking maybe it had a bios flash and it wasnt holding on certain things hence the artifacts.

 

[Thekwango]

i don't see how as parts individually sell for more than when priced in a bundle. so selling as a whole pc is usually the worse way to get more money.

only when you're selling to people 'in the know'
sell to the unwashed masses who don't know a 2080ti from a 380x and there's a market. admittedly it's not the biggest market but as a way to make some easy beer tokens as long as you can bothered with the after care it's handy enough.

 

[Psycho Sonny]

only when you're selling to people 'in the know'
sell to the unwashed masses who don't know a 2080ti from a 380x and there's a market. admittedly it's not the biggest market but as a way to make some easy beer tokens as long as you can bothered with the after care it's handy enough.

so what your saying is buy cheap crap. stuff that is worthless. build a system then sell it on as a fortnite gaming pc.

the OP sold a 1080ti not a £50 GPU.

like I said something doesn't add up here.

 

[Thekwango]

so what your saying is buy cheap crap. stuff that is worthless. build a system then sell it on as a fortnite gaming pc.

the OP sold a 1080ti not a £50 GPU.

like I said something doesn't add up here.

that's not what i'm saying.
i can spec up a damn decent 500-600 quid pc from parts on the mm right now that will out perform something considerably more expensive from the likes of the purple shirt brigade and probably turn at least £100 on it easily, simply from folk i know personally that want a gaming pc but can't afford or don't want to spend a £1000+. Remember not everyone is pc savvy - if they were the purple shirt brigade and their ilk wouldn't be in business. i imagine that's what the op is doing and has likely expanded to friends of friends or indeed selling the refurbed rigs on FB etc.
if you can't understand how to turn a profit knocking out a second hand pc that's fair enough, doesn't make it suspicious. i don't know how to make home brew booze, doesn't make suspicious of those that can.

but anyhow, lets not take the thread further off topic.

 

[Psycho Sonny]

that's not what i'm saying.
i can spec up a damn decent 500-600 quid pc from parts on the mm right now that will out perform something considerably more expensive from the likes of the purple shirt brigade and probably turn at least £100 on it easily, simply from folk i know personally that want a gaming pc but can't afford or don't want to spend a £1000+. Remember not everyone is pc savvy - if they were the purple shirt brigade and their ilk wouldn't be in business. i imagine that's what the op is doing and has likely expanded to friends of friends or indeed selling the refurbed rigs on FB etc.
if you can't understand how to turn a profit knocking out a second hand pc that's fair enough, doesn't make it suspicious. i don't know how to make home brew booze, doesn't make suspicious of those that can.

but anyhow, lets not take the thread further off topic.

last time i checked pc world sell stuff that is brand new. not second hand. so there is your discrepancy in price right there.

if what you said was true. my pc should be in high demand.

s340 elite - tempered glass case with 5 additional cooling fans mounted using rubber mounts (no screws) for silent use.
i5 7600K
hyper 212 evo - with additional fan for push pull config
premium MSI tomahawk motherboard
16GB DDR4 crucial ballistix
Super Flower - Platinum PSU - not cheap bronze, silver or gold
500GB SSD
3TB HDD
MSI GTX 1080

being offered £300 for that is a joke. the GPU alone is worth practically that. i put it up for £650 for a quick sale. i'm going to end up stripping it down and selling parts on ebay. re-using the 1080 and selling the rest.

 

[ukbilleh]

if the vram is 100% i would remove the cooler and re-apply thermal paste and pads to the gpu and vram chips.

Yea I was about to do this last night during testing but I’m going to hold off for the RMA process. Interestingly enough I see no warranty stickers over the screw holes which allow disassembly of the card. Trying to not let my temptation get the better of me to try this out

edit: btw rtss reports the temp on the card as ~65c during heavy benching. Seems to be pretty decent for an air cooled card but I guess there could be some transient spikes of heat which miss the software polling. If the RMA falls through I’ll certainly be heading down this road

 

[ukbilleh]

Was thinking maybe it had a bios flash and it wasnt holding on certain things hence the artifacts.

Was one of the first things I checked. Certainly a valid point but it’s just on its standard bios. I did check the zotac site for an updated bios but nothing available.

 

[Thekwango]

last time i checked pc world sell stuff that is brand new. not second hand. so there is your discrepancy in price right there

Umm yea course they sell new?! But I was highlighting the fact you can build a used pc for much less than new that it many cases will out perform some of their offerings, because not everyone wants to or can buy new. Not sure what that specific part of your response was meant to highlight.

 

[Besty]

edit: btw rtss reports the temp on the card as ~65c during heavy benching. Seems to be pretty decent for an air cooled card but I guess there could be some transient spikes of heat which miss the software polling. If the RMA falls through I’ll certainly be heading down this road

vrm/mem temp should have different sensors but yeah i would rma it if you can.

 

[Gripen90]

he isn't the the original buyer.

warranty stops with original buyer with most gpu manufacturers.

Within the rules of EU, the warranty follows the card and not the buyer. Therefore as long as the card is under its warranty period it can change hands as many times it can.

 

[Len Dananey]

Within the rules of EU, the warranty follows the card and not the buyer. Therefore as long as the card is under its warranty period it can change hands as many times it can.

This is correct, I have had many 2nd hand cards and other hardware from people and been able to return them via warranty as a new owner, the warranty does indeed follow the product and not the owner. Shocks me actually that many people just give up on a failing part and bin it without considering there may actually be warranty available.

 

[Nasher]

Unless it's one which goes through the retailer (like MSI), they won't even know you aren't the original buyer. They will just look at the serial number and say yes or no. The manufacturer has no data on the end user.

 

[sastusbulbas]

An interesting thread.

I have two MSI Twin Frozr HD7950 gpu's. Both artefact and cause stability problems. I plan to throw some spares together and see why both these cards are having problems.

No idea how to test cards, and wondering how to go about testing them.

 

[Len Dananey]

An interesting thread.

I have two MSI Twin Frozr HD7950 gpu's. Both artefact and cause stability problems. I plan to throw some spares together and see why both these cards are having problems.

No idea how to test cards, and wondering how to go about testing them.

I usually use Furmark or just try gaming on them, will notice if there are artifacts or other issues quickly usually.

 

[gpuerrilla]

The manufacturer has no data on the end user.

Not trying to be pedantic but they do collect some data as when I buy new components you register them on the manuf site just in case. Might not be relevant for all parts but I think it may matter on some.

 

[Nasher]

Not trying to be pedantic but they do collect some data as when I buy new components you register them on the manuf site just in case. Might not be relevant for all parts but I think it may matter on some.

Most people dont bother to register things as its optional. But I dont think it would even make a difference tbh.

 

[ukbilleh]

Well to follow this thread up the card was sent back to “the retailer” by the original owner, tested and deemed faulty. No replacement was sent and a refund minus a monthly predetermined amount was refunded to the original owner.
He in turn refunded me and the story ends.

What I’ve learnt:
1) don’t rely solely on furmark, it stresses the core but little else
2) use multiple benchmarks especially heaven, it may be old but seems to show good results for picking up issues
3) run them for at least 30min or longer if the seller is willing to wait (not furmark)

Since this rma I was in the market for used vega 64 and came across a decent deal. At the sellers house I ran furmark again (5min) and found no issues, went on to run heaven and started to see artifacting after ~10min. Worryingly he didn’t seem surprised and admitted his friend had locked the maximum core speed out to prevent any issues. It was quite awkward :/ needless to say I left with my money.

 

[Blackjack Davy]

Where are you getting the parts from? Used is ok for the most part refurb I'd avoid might be ok might be troublesome typically intermittent fault that won't play out on the testbench but in real gaming situations will surface and are hard to pin down.