Texting with Stop Start Engine

Vonhelmet said:
What could possibly go wrong.
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Why should I care what happens to selfish idiots that don't get out of the way of the emergency services? The only reason I'm not advocating them being vaporised from orbit is because the tech isn't there yet.

@Burnsey - I thought you guys spent all your time doing paperwork anyway? (I'm only kidding, before anyone takes me seriously)
 
Linkex said:
Why should I care what happens to selfish idiots that don't get out of the way of the emergency services? The only reason I'm not advocating them being vaporised from orbit is because the tech isn't there yet.
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Fine, so write to an MP with your stupid idea.
 
Madness, why wait for the engine to stop or the car come to think of it, it's what knees were invented for, well unless you have an RS4 with a flat bottom wheel as then you need a large **** and to undo your fly, but it works fine.
 
Here in Holland it's okay to text at the lights. Unless you're moving, you're not ''driving'' the vehicle legally wise. Cops do sometimes write fines for this, but everyone who appeals it has won the appeal on this forum I often go to, you have to be actually driving, not standing still, to be fined for holding a telephone.

Whole handheld calling ban is ridiculous anyhow imho, it's hardly much safer than handsfree calling... And other things like eating or drinking or smoking or changign cd's is all fine...
If rolling a cigarette is legal then so should holding a telephone imho.

Too much freedom is taken away for ''safety''.
 
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I read something in the paper the other day about insurance companies starting to blacklist any driver caught using a mobile phone. This would make it impossible to get cheap insurance and you could end up going through some rip off company charging you over treble your previous rate.

Good idea if you ask me. I don't see how the punishment can be the same as speeding. Everyone accidently goes over the speed limits at some point. No one can just accidently send a text.
 
I am still of the opinion you should be free to do what you want in your car, they won't catch me holding a phone because of BT handsfree but I disagree with the principle that it shouldn't be allowed... I regularly eat in my car, or look for something, and they won't take that away from me!
 
snowdog said:
I am still of the opinion you should be free to do what you want in your car
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Indeed, as long as your choice doesn't affect me. Which if it affects your concentration, it will when you plough into me as I cross the street. If your opinion affects my safety then you shouldn't have the right to hold such a stupid opinion.
 
Burnsy2023 said:
Indeed, as long as your choice doesn't affect me. Which if it affects your concentration, it will when you plough into me as I cross the street. If your opinion affects my safety then you shouldn't have the right to hold such a stupid opinion.
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Rubbish, half of the driving on the road is in automatic pilot mode anyhow, unless it's busy or an interesting road, its hardly like you need to have the utmost concentration at all times, only in city areas or heavy traffic really, most of the time you're driving a straight flat boring road with a bend every couple of minutes and nothing to look out for but the car in front, no pedestrians or animals or whatever near in miles...

Safety has already been taken to far at the cost of personal freedom, perhaps we should all drive 20mph max to reduce deaths ? I'm sure it would reduce car drivers deaths to near 0...
 
Rich_L said:
Tbh that just sounds like you're a terrible driver whether you meant it or not :p
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That is your opinion, I never drove into anything ever, despite being on the road for hours every day, driving for TNT post, usually means multi tasking... I simply don't have the time to stop and go eating or anything, always eat my sarny or takeaway meal in the car while driving. And I'm sick of nanny state meddling with people in places they shouldn't.
 
snowdog said:
I simply don't have the time to stop and go eating or anything, always eat my sarny or takeaway meal in the car while driving. And I'm sick of nanny state meddling with people in places they shouldn't.
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Admitting stuff like that on a public forum isn't a very good idea at the best of times, doing it in a thread a cop is also posting in is...

Edit: nvm didn't see you were foreign.
 
I'm doing nothing illegal and even if it was, they would never be able to enforce it, so they can stick it basically imo.

I'm just voicing my aversion to rules that shouldn't be there.

Handheld calls for example are considered evil, but walkie talkies or CB radio's aren't ? That is quite frankly ridiculous.
 
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snowdog said:
I'm doing nothing illegal and even if it was, they would never be able to enforce it, so they can stick it basically imo.
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If you were doing that in the UK then you would be doing something illegal, and it is enforced, a trucker got pulled/done near where I live for driving along with a bowl of food on his lap eating it.
 
Before Sat Nav in the 'olden days' I'd have a glove box full of A to Z's and can remember the years and years of driving into busy cities of the UK reading my A to Z as I strived to get to my location. Times, they are a changin
 
Simon said:
I find texting hard whilst driving. The ketchup off my bacon sarnie tends to drip on the phone
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:D

I actually saw a women on her phone trying to come and join the road from a side street while on the phone and eating her morning toast in the other hand.

Regardless clearly the penalty for mobile phone use isn't enough because on a 15 minute journey I can see loads of people doing it. What I always find the most odd is people in vans, delivery drivers etc. People who require their driving license for their job seem to do it more than anyone.

My own dumbass sister was once on the phone to my wife, my wife was unaware she was driving until she heard the accident and the phone went dead.
 
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