TF2 Uber Update

I think the argument against the myriad updates is that there is no 'optimal' loadout for a class and players have to match up a set that suits their play style.

IMO this is not a bad thing, however for new / inexperienced players, the default loadouts put them at a real disadvantage with certain classes (hello needlegun).

One thing that can be a disincentive to new players is the sheer amount of available weapons creating too much variety of gameplay styles. New players will literally have to study how the various weapons affect gameplay for themselves and what to expect from their opponents or otherwise just find themselves staring at the wall in spawn more often than having fun.

Very true, but i think thats why they introduced the Coach thing.
 
I really don't mind the weapon updates they just give different classes that bit more flexibility for different situations and maps. Hell I tend to change my loadouts mid round depending on how the game is going.
 
I really don't mind the weapon updates they just give different classes that bit more flexibility for different situations and maps. Hell I tend to change my loadouts mid round depending on how the game is going.

I always change my loadout for the class midgame.
 
So many now just seem more interested taking up team slots to just spam trade messages non stop, or sit in spawn points waiting for trade. :(
 
You could argue it's crap but at least it's free and there are still servers that disallow non-vanilla weapons and gear.
 
So many now just seem more interested taking up team slots to just spam trade messages non stop, or sit in spawn points waiting for trade. :(

I've never seen that happen. There's the occasional person who'll ask if anyone has/wants a certain item, but they don't spam. I'd advise looking for better administrated servers :x
 
Some of my friends seem pretty happy about this - I got bored of TF2 a long time ago.

Bleh.

Not interested. The game is naff now since all the hats, customisations and weapon differences.

TF2 is miles away from it's core now.

This and this to be honest :( I will give the new update a go as it is a laugh with friends on teamspeak, but I tend to ignore the almost daily updates that TF2 seems to download.
 
I'd advise looking for better administrated servers :x

Care to name one which is chat & trade spam free then? :)

I played TF2 on variety of UK's most popular servers, and yes it does go on a lot. Haven't played the game much for couple of months now - so trade spam may have died down since, but with new items on the way...
 
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The argument against all the new unlocks is stupid. Every weapon is a side grade, and it really just caters for different styles of play.

No one is MAKING you use the weapons. And at least it's all free, and not like COD where you pay £10 for 4 new maps. Also, in COD most items are true upgrades, and not sidegrades. The game is still excellent. And for a game that will be 4 years old this year, I think the weapons and hats have been a factor in it being so popular for so long!
 
Not even pretending I play this much but I did log on the other day to find out I could buy a hat for £4.99. Then I logged off.

Your point being?

I know people think its cool to bitch about TF2 and the hats but sometimes I wish they'd get a grip. Valve get no money from the continued support of TF2 and hats provide no benefits. Its a premium for people who want to pay for it and support Valve.
 
Your point being?

I know people think its cool to bitch about TF2 and the hats but sometimes I wish they'd get a grip. Valve get no money from the continued support of TF2 and hats provide no benefits. Its a premium for people who want to pay for it and support Valve.

Couldnt agree more. I havent spent anything on this game bar buying it at the start.

If they want to make the front page a shop then fine as long as i can get straight to the server browser im a happy man. Having none of the new stuff makes no difference to the game you can still pick something for every situation by playing another class. Thats what i love about TF2 it still has great teamplay for quite a crazy fps
 
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