Poll: That Monkey Selfie

[flibbage0]

LOL, I'm just looking at the poll results and I'm tempted to help make it 33.333% each way

 

[Whitewater]

IMO: Copyright of Monkey. The act of taking the photo is key. The monkey pressed the button and took the photo, the facts that the equipment is Dave's, that Dave set up the equipment and that he paid a lot to go there and seek out the monkey to take photos does not change that.

The monkey should take both parties to court for breach of copyright - Wikimedia for making copies without permission and Dave for him passing the monkey's work as his

 

[Tom0]

Public domain AFAIC.

 

[Kosmiche]

Don't think its the monkies' copyright, mainly because its not human.

 

[Ryan-3]

It's a child in a monkey suit!

Hold on, that's worse..

 

[Haggisman]

On a slightly related note, if you record a concert, who owns the copyright - you for the video itself, or the artist for the content? Or both?

 

[D.P.]

I believe it is the person who sets up the shot is the one who gets copyright. So if you set up a group photo, ask a passer by to push the button so you can also be in the photo, the copyright doesn't suddenly belong to the random passer by.

So really it's an argument of did the photographer set up the photo and the monkey just ended up pushing the button.

This pretty much, otherwise any photo taken with remote shutters, automatic triggers etc wouldn't belong to the photographer, which is nonsense.

The photo belongs to whoever set up the shot, not who pressed the final shutter.

 

[D.P.]

So if I just make a monkey click "download" on a torrent site it becomes legal?

Or create some software that downloads it automatically for you..

 

[D.P.]

I don't get the maths:

£2k in the first year (2012), then £10k estimate to the present day (2-3 years).
Why would he estimate that he would have a sustained revenue increase of 50%+ from a photo?

Maybe its to do with the legal fees needed to take wikipeida to court...

If he released his photo in October of the first year the he could expect more later.
Also increased interest in sales, or increasing prices now there would be more demand.
I sell stock photos and they often sit there doing nothing until some people,download it, then the search algorithms rank the photo much higher and bam, you get hundreds of sales a year, and as you get more sales the price goes up (and sometimes amount of commission as well). It's easy to get thousands of % increase in profits Year of year.

Anyway the exact amount of damages is not so important.

 

[Mr-White]

So does that mean any photograph, such as a holiday pic were you asked someone else to take the picture of you, you don't own ?

MW

 

[Resa69]

Don't think its the monkies' copyright, mainly because its not human.

Humans are evolved monkeys

 

[Vengance]

I think Spie should put some money up to get the monkey a lawyer...
"Monkey wins court case, Mr Slater forced to pay proceeds from photograph in bananas"