This is the only way I do it now and been the most successful.
Stuff like this should be illegal.
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This is the only way I do it now and been the most successful.
Stuff like this should be illegal.
Do we need a new bum thread?
I have ended up with too many work options, question is which to take on.
Applying for jobs is not the way, everything happens for me through reaching out (sorry) to acquaintances, old colleagues etc. Guess it's easier if you've moved around a bit, but making sure you always stay in touch with people and never leave on bad terms.
I have ended up with too many work options, question is which to take on.
Applying for jobs is not the way, everything happens for me through reaching out (sorry) to acquaintances, old colleagues etc. Guess it's easier if you've moved around a bit, but making sure you always stay in touch with people and never leave on bad terms.
Ouch.
Yet another contract agency calling about including the CV into my old place of work.. not sure this will go anywhere but should know.
It’ll be far enough away from the previous characters but still full of the old politics.
Not keeping my hopes high so cracking with other roles.
It’ll be far enough away from the previous characters but still full of the old politics.
Not keeping my hopes high so cracking with other roles.
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They've still not hired for that role.
They are now saying they don't want 'strategic' people but want someone that has experience of actually administrating.. well the role they're asking is strategic ... but they also want the person to have experience doing both the administration and have legacy administration, architecture etc too.. and to sort out the mess that exits in the legacy environments without any documentation. You can see why they've not filled that role lol.
Still looking, slowly applying.
They are now saying they don't want 'strategic' people but want someone that has experience of actually administrating.. well the role they're asking is strategic ... but they also want the person to have experience doing both the administration and have legacy administration, architecture etc too.. and to sort out the mess that exits in the legacy environments without any documentation. You can see why they've not filled that role lol.
Still looking, slowly applying.
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Over 50 or 40? This is worth a watch to reset how you approach things.
Applied for a position I'm qualified for, however it's via Workday. After putting in the CV the workflow then wants work history added, skills and courses that you can't add because of WD. Painful. Then this morning before 8am.. I get a rejection email. Yep - I got Workday'd.
Applied for a position I'm qualified for, however it's via Workday. After putting in the CV the workflow then wants work history added, skills and courses that you can't add because of WD. Painful. Then this morning before 8am.. I get a rejection email. Yep - I got Workday'd.
I’ve said it before, but you can avoid all the drama of fighting against thousands of online applicants by making sure you build and maintain a decent professional network.
Skip the queue.
Always leave places on good terms. Don’t burn bridges. Use LinkedIn, stay in touch with people.
Skip the queue.
Always leave places on good terms. Don’t burn bridges. Use LinkedIn, stay in touch with people.
^^^ this, especially when it comes to skillsets that are less tangible, harder to assess etc.
Even then there is an issue for people in general management roles or managers of teams of consultants or sales people - I've seen a former "global head of" XYZ end up becoming a "life coach"/"careers coach" and anther taking a huge pay cut to work at a charity. They (understandably) don't necessarily want to go back to the non-management role that might involve regular travel, client visits but getting into an equivalent senior role, especially in a short space of time following say a redundancy isn't necessarily easy even with a good network.
On the other hand older technical people who want to stay technical/hands on and have a relevant skillset seem to be just fine if they keep that network and can bounce between contracts in their area of expertise.
I think the broader issue here is just applications in general; these days they're getting so many candidates per advert and many CVs/application forms are being filtered before a human even reads them.
Applying for jobs has never been ideal but it's even worse today, there are plenty of other approaches though. I think it's fundamental to try and speak to people at least on the phone if not face to face, existing network is ideal but even outside of that then meet-ups/events etc.. just getting out there and talking to people could be way more constructive than applications.
Secondly if a role has a recruiter then there's no harm in proactively reaching out - like literally just call the relevant recruitment firm while you've got the email/CV ready to go and ask to speak to them, introduce yourself, have a brief chat etc.. and then send it over.
Lastly if you are doing some cold applications to adverts then maybe try this site:
Welcome to the Jungle—Work with the company you belong to
Welcome to the Jungle is the guide that walks you through your job-search: find out what it's like to work for today's top companies and find the best content to thrive in your career
www.welcometothejungle.com
It's smaller tech firms and you may find there are fewer applicants than the big established job sites.