The 2025 Bum Thread

Was approached this morning by a company recruiter, CV and CL done this afternoon, recruiter then pinged back for a prelim filtering interview - booked in for next week..
Ghosted ..

This also may explain the absolute zero engagement as companies are continuing to blame NI costs for not hiring over 50s and you're more likely to be made redundant:

 
First day of gardening leave today, feeling a weird motivation/pressure to get something sorted asap and 'win' the redundancy payout game rather than having to use that money to live off :cry:

One final interview done this week, annoyingly don't find out until next week due to the other candeidate having theirs then, and am in the process of a few more but always find things so painfully slow.

Still keep going to open Slack on my phone to catch up on things, only to be met with a sign in screen as a stark reminder :cry:
 
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First day of gardening leave today, feeling a weird motivation/pressure to get something sorted asap and 'win' the redundancy payout game rather than having to use that money to live off :cry:

One final interview done this week, annoyingly don't find out until next week due to the other candeidate having theirs then, and am in the process of a few more but always find things so painfully slow.

Still keep going to open Slack on my phone to catch up on things, only to be met with a sign in screen as a stark reminder :cry:

Don't leave it too long, the market is dead as a dodo..
 
Final decision tomorrow, its just a formality so i will soon be unemployed.

On the plus side, i've applied to 6 jobs over the last week or so. Seems to be new jobs popping up every other day so hopefully i won't be out of work for too long.
 
Don't leave it too long, the market is dead as a dodo..
Oh I won’t be, I wanted a new job yesterday, went through this 3 years ago and even though it was only 8 weeks out of work then it wasn’t fun.

Even before consultation period started I was speaking with people, I’m in 6 processes at the moment at various stages, just need things to move along and one of them to stick!
 
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'win' the redundancy payout game rather than having to use that money to live off
I don't really see it that way, it's always a win it's then just a question of whether you have more money or more leisure time.
Obviously if you lack wealth and are at risk of running out of money then its important to get something lined up quickly but if you are comfortable enough, its a great opportunity for some time off. Although your latest post suggests that perhaps doesn't suit you! I took 6 weeks off before starting my current job and it was great.
 
I’ll take time off before starting something new, and tbh I have plenty of time for things usually. And others in the house still have work, school runs need to be done etc so can’t exactly think I’ll go off travelling for a few weeks sadly!

It’s hard to relax or make productive use of time with needing to find a job weighing on my mind.

I’ll be a lot more relaxed when it’s sorted!

Money wise we’re all good, got a few years worth in the bank, but it’s not money I want to be using to live for now, it’s there to build for the future.

I jest about winning the redundancy game, it’s more about getting a new role when there is something available and not missing out on something.

Ideally the one I did the final round d for last week make me a suitable offer this week, I take it then start after half term, gives me a couple of weeks to wind down from it all and not feel like I need to be job chasing.
 
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I've had a couple of weeks break - mainly due to family activities and travel. As a result I've had a chance to take a break, forget, and re-energise. It's quite amazing how being out of work and constantly, repetitively doing similar things whilst being anxious about money etc with little distraction can be detrimental.

A second-look after the break, pondering how I could be failing, has lead to a bit of a Satori moment that I'm selling myself short in the presentation due to a lack of confidence. The result creates a disjunction between experience and presentation. It would be foolish to continue as I have been. So I'll step up, present at board level, including creating new content from a board level perspective.

The dumb bit - and you'll laugh - it's taken someone pointing out a CTO is a CEO with a technical slant, for me to twig.
 
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Not a bad thing to change approaches if things aren't working well with the current approach, though AFAIK CTO positions aren't typically handled by regular recruiters rather they're often handled by executive search firms/headhunters.

Just be prepared to pivot again - there's a cliched saying in the poker community "move up to where they respect your raises" it's sarcasm referencing a common flawed belief among frustrated players that others at their level are the issue and that if they just played at higher stakes their game would improve.

Obviously there's not much to lose by taking a shot other than time and people on a forum don't have enough visibility to assess whether that's a good idea or not for you but I'd perhaps consider talking to a career coach, someone who can look at your experience in detail, talk through the next steps/help plan etc.. and just give honest feedback on those approaches.
 
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Well I have to say i underestimated the job application process, 4 weeks and all I have received is rejections or nothing at all, i'll be honest I sent out the same CV to most jobs which was more of a description of what I did in my last couple of jobs. I was underselling myself though and wasn't including any "acheivements". I automated a few manual processes with SQL/Python so i made sure to include them. Also i am now tailoring my CV for each application to match what I can on the job spec.

Looking for mid level roles ideally.
I wonder if Linkedin Premium is worth a go, I keep getting half price offers. Any thoughts?
 
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Looking for mid level roles ideally.
I wonder if Linkedin Premium is worth a go, I keep getting half price offers. Any thoughts?

I've never used it, but somehow I doubt it's worth it. I think the problem is competition over vacancies, so it won't help with that.

Tailoring the CV for each application is a lot of work, isn't that what the cover letter is for?
 
Well I have to say i underestimated the job application process, 4 weeks and all I have received is rejections or nothing at all, i'll be honest I sent out the same CV to most jobs which was more of a description of what I did in my last couple of jobs. I was underselling myself though and wasn't including any "acheivements". I automated a few manual processes with SQL/Python so i made sure to include them. Also i am now tailoring my CV for each application to match what I can on the job spec.

Looking for mid level roles ideally.
I wonder if Linkedin Premium is worth a go, I keep getting half price offers. Any thoughts?
The way forward is to deal with people, not application forms. If you're just one of hundreds of applications you are going to struggle to stand out in the sea of AI-glossed slop.
 
I've never used it, but somehow I doubt it's worth it. I think the problem is competition over vacancies, so it won't help with that.

Tailoring the CV for each application is a lot of work, isn't that what the cover letter is for?

I don't know to be honest, last job I applied for was over 2 years ago and i heard back pretty much instantly with a fairly generic CV. Now i'm reading that CV's should be tailored so match the job spec to get passed ATS systems.
 
The way forward is to deal with people, not application forms. If you're just one of hundreds of applications you are going to struggle to stand out in the sea of AI-glossed slop.
I have tried to reach out to hiring managers but no replies so far unfortunately.
 
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I have tried to reach out to hiring managers but no replies so far unfortunately.
Need people to know your face. Building and maintaining a professional network isn't just making LinkedIn connections.

I'm spending Friday at a local uni's graduate show. I don't really need to, but there's going to be lots of people around from various industries, academics, employers, lots of fresh grads who are going out into the workforce.

I've had plenty of professional leads come from having just met someone in person once.
 
Well I have to say i underestimated the job application process, 4 weeks and all I have received is rejections or nothing at all, i'll be honest I sent out the same CV to most jobs which was more of a description of what I did in my last couple of jobs. I was underselling myself though and wasn't including any "acheivements". I automated a few manual processes with SQL/Python so i made sure to include them. Also i am now tailoring my CV for each application to match what I can on the job spec.

Looking for mid level roles ideally.
I wonder if Linkedin Premium is worth a go, I keep getting half price offers. Any thoughts?
Premium is not worth. You get nothing. Actually less than nothing because more recruiters will waste your time. Don't bother.

The path to success is only apply for jobs posted by the company. Never anything posted by recruiters.
 
My membership to this thread is relatively short lived, new role starting in 2 weeks.

Redundancy is never fun, bit of a relief to have something sorted.
 
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Well I have to say i underestimated the job application process, 4 weeks and all I have received is rejections or nothing at all, i'll be honest I sent out the same CV to most jobs which was more of a description of what I did in my last couple of jobs. I was underselling myself though and wasn't including any "acheivements". I automated a few manual processes with SQL/Python so i made sure to include them. Also i am now tailoring my CV for each application to match what I can on the job spec.

Looking for mid level roles ideally.
I wonder if Linkedin Premium is worth a go, I keep getting half price offers. Any thoughts?

Yup, that's pretty much the case at the moment - I'd also agree that premium really isn't worth it.

Underselling is a key problem, and the time taken to tailor the CV needs to standout from the crowd therefore you can spam tailored CVs and still zero out. I'd also use a % of your time to (a) upskill, and, (b) look to demonstrate it in some way. Be prepared to make that demonstration at the level you're selling.

Remember every application is being hit by AI and then being filtered by AI. It's personal visibility and contacts that move the needle.

Do you have a mentor that you can use? Basically, listen and highlight areas you may have missed?
 
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Yup, that's pretty much the case at the moment - I'd also agree that premium really isn't worth it.

Underselling is a key problem, and the time taken to tailor the CV needs to standout from the crowd therefore you can spam tailored CVs and still zero out. I'd also use a % of your time to (a) upskill, and, (b) look to demonstrate it in some way. Be prepared to make that demonstration at the level you're selling.

Remember every application is being hit by AI and then being filtered by AI. It's personal visibility and contacts that move the needle.

Do you have a mentor that you can use? Basically, listen and highlight areas you may have missed?
Thanks for the advice, yep definitely going to make some BI dashboards/reports and show them on github pages or something similar. Unfortunately no, i don't have a mentor.
 
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